A&M's Johnny Football is better than Cam Newton...

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Freshman quarterbacks throw interceptions under pressure. Just sayin' . . .
     
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  2. Tiger_fan

    Tiger_fan Veteran Member

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    Comparing Connor Shaw to Manziel as a running threat is like comparing Jordan Jefferson to Cam Newton as a running threat

    Manziel is #1 in the SEC with 112.67 rushing yards per game, Shaw is #21 with 46.67

    Manziel is #1 in the SEC with a ypc of 7.43 on 15.17 rushes/game, Shaw is #34 with 3.68 ypc on 12.67 rushes/game

    Manziel is #1 in the SEC with 10 rushing TDs, Shaw is #41 with 1

    Literally a night and day difference between the two. A better comparison would be to compare Manziel to UF's Gillislee, who is #2 in the SEC behind Manziel with 102.50 yards/game, and he had 146 and scored all of UF's TDs v us...all from 14 yards out

    Also, note that Towson's D2 QB ran for 86 yards for us on 12 carries (a whooping 7.2 ypc vs us)
     
  3. onceanlsufan

    onceanlsufan Founding Member

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    TF .... like I said ..I'm not taking away from Johnny Pany being good. He is. But if you look at your stats without taking into account who he has played, then you are not being honest with yourself.

    Johnny Pany only rushed for 60 yards on FL's defense. ... so all those yards he's racked up are on the likes of SMU, SouthCarolina State, Arkansas, and La Tech. .. I'm not even sure that you could classify Ol Miss as a decent run defense. Contrast that to Cam Newton ... who played SEC defenses . We won't know just how stellar Johnny Pany is until after he's played some SEC football ... cause so far, he's 1-1 .. and I"m not sure you can consider AR a plus on the Defensive side of the ball.

    Shaw ... on the otherhand, has played Georgia, LSU, ... along with Mizzou and Vandy ... and Kentucky for what they are worth.

    And I don't think you can look at the Gillislee comparison straight up either. LSU's defense was gassed and plagued by injuries by the 4th Quarter when Gillislee began to rack up yards ... simply because LSU's offense couldn't stay on the field for longer than 30 seconds. IMO ... some of those kinks in the offense got worked out last week, and we're likely to see that even more have been worked out this week.

    I'll hold with my original assessment. I think Johnny Pany is going to come out overconfident .... and after he gets stuffed a few times .. the freshman frustration will come out .. and then as Red noted .... the "ints" are going to start happening.
     
  4. Tiger_fan

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    Funny thing is, coming into this season, the aTm O was stacked everywhere but QB (Manziel wasn't even expected to be the starter

    First, let's look at their OL. It's so dominant that reading the Aggie forums, they expect their OL to neutralize our DL

    They have arguably the two best OTs in the nation in juniors Luke Joeckel and Jake Matthews...they are basically the equivalent to Sam and Mingo at DE, so every NFL scout will be watching this one

    here is what College Football News wrote about them:

    "Everything will start with a phenomenal line that was among the best in the nation last year and gets five starters back...the veteran and talented offensive line...(has) jelled into a phenomenal brick wall, ... a terrific offensive line"

    Athlon Sports wrote:

    "The offensive line should be one of the best in the conference , as tackles Luke Joeckel and Jake Matthews will both contend for All - SEC honors."

    And even our very own Randy Rosetta writes that they have a better OL than we do...

    "OFFENSIVE LINE: As impressive as LSU's
    resurgence up front was last week with a
    revamped crew doing the heavy lifting, this is
    an area where the Aggies have mastered
    stability and major reason why their offense
    leads the SEC in scoring, rushing offense and
    total offense. Anchored by future pros at the
    tackles in Luke Joeckel (left) and Jake
    Matthews (right), all five Texas A&M linemen
    have started every game this season and
    have paved the way for three games where of
    600 total yards or more with a mind-boggling
    716 against Arkansas. Advantage: Texas
    A&M"
     
  5. VampMuse

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    Arkansas has picked it up on defense the past two weeks, but before that you were like .... they have a defense?

    We shut down JM today
     
  6. Mezmorizor

    Mezmorizor Founding Member

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    They both still have the same style. Scramble out of the pocket to either throw or run on most plays. Johnny Football is a lot better at it, but the same scheme should be able to stop Johnny too.

    About Towson:
    1. Towson is FCS, not D2. The talent gap between FCS and D2 is bigger than the talent gap between FBS and FCS. Even a putrid FCS team like Savannah State would beat the elites of D2.

    2. He didn't get to scramble much at all in the second half.

    3. It's Towson, LSU didn't exactly try that game.
     
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    LOLOLOL Are you kidding me? Are you sure you aren't a Faggie fan?
     
  8. Tiger_fan

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    Both were named preseason All-SEC by the SEC coaches, one was just named a midseason First Team All American by Sports Illustrated, and NFL Draft Scout ranks them the #1 and #3 OTs in the nation for the 2014 NFL Draft
     
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    Next, let's look at their RBs

    College Football News wrote:

    "a case could be made that A&M has the best backfield in the SEC"

    Here's a look at the 3 RBs they've used most in their rotation...

    Christine Michael
    -2012 Preseason All-SEC
    -Rivals 5-star, #3 RB (#22 on the Rivals100)
    -Scout 5-star, #4 RB (#36 on the Scour100)
    -ESPN 4-star, #4 RB (#35 on the ESPN100)
    -offers to LSU, Oklahoma, Florida, Texas A&M, Miami, Nebraska, etc

    Trey Williams
    -Rivals 5-star, #3 RB (#15 on the Rivals100)
    -Scout 5-star, #3 RB (#16 on the Scout100)
    -247 5-star, #2 All-purpose back (#25 on the Top100)
    -ESPN 4-star, #5 RB (#56 on the ESPN100)
    -offers to Alabama, LSU, Oregon, Auburn, Arkansas, Miami, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, etc

    Ben Malena
    -Rivals 4-star RB
    -offers to Florida State, Wisconsin, Iowa, K State, Texas A&M, etc
     
  10. vshouse

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    If your seriously trying to rate aTm's backfield as better than lsu's you have just lost any and all credit ability on this site!!
     
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