A genuine question for the unwavering Miles/Crowton supporters

For a change the Morning Advocate & Randy R told it like it is. For all of you that blindly look at the good side of things please read the two stores by RR in this mornings (sunday) sports page... I could not have said it better myself.... especially the part where LM says he wants to run the ball more.. :nope:

 

My love is LSU first. I will say, as I always have, is that Miles strength depends on his asst's. Right now he doesn't have what he has had in the past. A change needs to happen on the O side of the ball. Should next season be more of the same then Miles will be gone, and I will be in full support of that move. That said I think Miles has one or two more coaching moves left to handle in the next couple of weeks, and I think it will be done.

 

I doubt that they can read.

 

I have just been on ESPN web site reading the article about Texas Tech and there were some comments about their coaching eposode. Some of the things that was obvious is he was smart enough to surrond himself with coaches that was so good that they could be a head coach. The players commented on what they have learned about football while playing under Leach and his coaching staff. Recruits are looking for a program that they can come to and advance their knowledge of football. IMO the players at at LSU have all the talent but they are not being coached in how to use it. If you want to blame Crowton then go ahead but where does the buck stop? CLM or the BOS.

 

I don't think we have to tell them anything. If they are being recruited by us I'm sure they have been paying attention and forming their own opinions. If you were Seastrunk and noticed that Shep didn't see the field in the bowl, what would you be thinking?

 

Nobody has to tell them. They watch the same games we do and they can see it for themselves.

True, but those same supervisors can most certainly be influenced by fan criticisms about what they're seeing and the potential loss of revenue if they're not proactive about finding a solution.

 

Good points, but let me add two of my own:

1. Nowhere have I said that coaching changes are a cure-all. Personally, I think it's a huge mistake to entertain the idea of firing Miles at this point. I do, however, think Gary Crowton has overstayed his welcome. Nevertheless, there are several troubling characteristics of recent Les Miles teams that are very concerning going forward, and it's delusional to pretend they don't exist. The intent of this thread is identifying the problem; fixing it is a very different matter, and it's often a much more difficult one.
2. Winning, regardless of the quality of the opponent, cannot be the sole consideration for retaining a coach, especially one who pulls down as much money as Les Miles commands right now. If all our fans care about is a 10+ win season every year, then I have a very simple solution. Let's pull a Notre Dame and withdraw from the SEC. We'll then be free to put Tulane, UNO, Nicholls, ULL, LaTech, ULM, and maybe a couple of FCS schools on the schedule every year. It guarantees that we'll never come close to sniffing a BCS bowl, but hey, WE'RE WINNING, and that's all that matters, right?

This is now the second straight year with no regular season wins over a team finishing in the Top 25. Almost doesn't count. That absolutely cannot stand next season to have any hope of going to Atlanta, and the sledding doesn't get any easier with the schedule. Miles did the right thing by cleaning out the defensive staff last year; I sincerely hope he'll do likewise for our offense.

 

I think Red's post is spot-on. I've always supported LSU, sometimes that meant I supported the coach and sometimes I didn't. I was more than ready for Archer, Hallman, and then DiNardo to all be shown the door.

On this very board, there were a number of rumbles about Saban in his last year, which was a big disappointment coming off of a NC. We simply had zero momentum that year.

As for Miles, I'm concerned about a number of things. Our anemic, inept offense must, must, MUST turn around in '10, and our defense needs to improve in getting off the field with more 3 and outs.

We must beat quality opponents, and we must utilize our talent.

One big improvement this year over last was the "Miles tenacity" in our team was back. What do I mean by "Miles tenacity"? His teams don't quit and they don't get blown out. Towards the end of '09, they were whipped puppies and did give up. But they didn't this year--though that bowl game was as uninspired as possible for 3 full quarters.

Next year will be the defining year of the Les Miles era. In my mind, we absolutely must represent the SEC West in the SECCG. Anything less, and I fear we will be seriously slipping as a program. But, we will finally have a junior QB, though we lose lots in the RB and WR categories.

 

I agree that Miles has won enough games since he came to LSU to let him slide a couple of years & even these last two years were not that bad in terms of wins per year. But - When you finish Last in the Conference in Offense & 110th in the Nation! I may let him slide but I ain't happy with the way things are heading.. That being said I think its a miracle that he won the games he did the last two years. He is to be commended for that. Hears hoping for a Much Better 2010 :geaux: