A Game of Thrones Season 6 HBO.

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  1. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    After Season 5: "Now that we are past the books, we have no reason to go as slow as fucking possible..."
    Season 6: "Let's go even slower!"
     
  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    More like, we have no source material so let's just kill of dire wolves to save cgi money and make dick and fart jokes.

    This last episode was probably one of the worst in the entire series. It's way worse than the 2nd and 3rd episode of last season.

    1. The Umbers are the most loyal Stark bannermen. They wouldn't give Rickon to The Bastard of Bolton. If they were mad at Jon for letting the wildlings settle The Gift, they would try to prop up Rickon as the heir to the Starks and proclaim him Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North. That whole scene was bullshit, I thought maybe it was a ruse and they were going to kind of take the place of The Manderlays until they plopped Shaggy Dog's head on the table.

    2. The TOJ scene was bullshit. Arthur Dayne wielding double swords instead of wielding Dawn? What the fuck was that Hollywood 2 sword bullshit? And the writers trying to paint Ned Stark as dishonorable because Howland Reed stabbed Dayne in the back of the neck? How is Ned dishonorable when he was just standing there waiting to die? They fucked that scene up too.

    3. Jon taking the Lord Commander role just to execute prisoners, then saying fuck it I'm done? Where is he going? Now I fully believe this will happen in the book, but not like that. That was dumb.

    4. Tyrion's filler scene was just stupid.

    Terrible episode.
     
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  3. locoguano

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    I was puzzled by this scene... The actors looked completely uncomfortable...
     
  4. locoguano

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    The Greatjon is a prisoner of the Frey's in the book, but was a no-show at the Red Wedding in the series. The Smalljon was killed at the Red Wedding in the book, but is alive and well and claims his father is dead in the series. Is Smalljon just taking the place of Hothor Whoresbane? Is the Greatjon still out there (taking the place of Mors Crowfood) and controlling at least a contingent of Umbers?
     
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    I'm confused....Why is it you think Ned was portrayed as dishonorable because of the action of Reed stabbing Dayne in the back? The dishonor came from Bran's recollection of the stories Ned told of taking out Dayne on his own which wasn't true at all.

    The Ned everyone thought they knew is blurred...Lied about defeating Dayne and likely that he is the father of Snow. Each of those could be lies that are considered honorable to protect Snow and Reed (not clear on why lying for Reed was needed yet).

    So far all we have seen of Ned is that he is loyal to family, lies when needed, hasn't won any matchups with his sword (Jamie, Dayne, etc...). Was also going to go against his own feelings of the rightful heir of the crown to protect his family and his own head and still failed at that. Interesting to say the least.
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Because Weiss and Beinhoff said that's what they were trying to do in the post show dialogue thing. Watch past the credits if you have HBOgo or HBOnow. They were trying to chip away at Ned's honor or something to that effect. Notice how Bran was shocked that Reed "stabbed him in the back". Ned never lied about beating Arthur Dayne either, in fact he says a few times Howland Reed saved his life. This is just the show trying to make people dislike the Starks.

    But I agree with you, it wasn't dishonorable at all. Ned was basically waiting to die when Reed stabbed him.

    And Bloodraven said he has been in the trees for a thousand years. Bloodraven was born about 200 years before the events that are taking place now.
     
  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I have no idea what they are doing. The guy who played Greatjon said he wasn't at the Red Wedding. We haven't seen the Manderlays although Ramsey mentioned them in episode 2 before he killed Roose. At first I thought maybe the Umbers would take the place of the Manderlays but I don't think so anymore, not after they sold out Rickon and killed Shaggy.
     
  8. locoguano

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    To be fair, Ned's brother was considered to be the great warrior in the family. Based on his victories in Robert's War, Ned was at the very least a good general. Jamie Lannister and Arthur Dayne were considered to be two of the best swordsmen alive (hence being chosen as Kingsguard).
     
  9. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Don't forget Ser Barristan, in the books Ned and Jaime never fight, Ned says if anything happens to him Tyrion will be killed and Jaime orders Ned's guards to be killed. Ned's horse falls and that's how he breaks his leg. But in the show they dual and Ned holds his own.
     
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