50 Million Dollar Jet Paid By TaxPayers

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  1. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    However you cant equate liberalism to socialism and thats the problem here. Obama has done alot of reaching across the isle in the last few days, signaling his willing to work with everyone.

    I have no problem with someone criticizing him, but save it for a time when he really deserves it.
     
  2. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    But will Pelosi, Reid, et. al. reach across the aisle? It's their agendas that worry me.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Why all the fear of Pelosi and Reid? They are just another couple of politicians. No better or worse than their predecessors or their successors will be.
     
  4. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I am going to say this and get out of FSA for the day, unless I am inclined to post here again today. You might appreciate this.


    Phuck Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. Especially Reid.
    Reid is a hack and not a good leader at all. Pelosi I can tolerate for right now.
     
  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    One is Speaker of the House and the other is Senate Majority Leader so I'd say they are a little more influential than "just another couple of politicians".
     
  6. Beaux-Bo

    Beaux-Bo Founding Member

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    OK... As I have stated in other post, I did not vote for Obama; however, I am rooting for him to do so good that I do vote for him in the next election.

    That being said, I have mixed feelings on his first few days in office.
    I am happy he picked up the phone and called house democrats and told them the 300,000,000 for contraceptives did not fit his plan for an economic stimulus.
    I am happy he is going to meet with GOP leaders in the house today to get feedback from them.
    I am happy he had someone call citigroup and point out the perception problem with them taking delivery of a 50,000,000 plane after taking tax payer money.
    I am not happy with the Gitmo situation or his stance on tying our intelligence hands with the Army Field Manuel.

    My point was the media twisted the story, and the sheep that listen to the media were drawing in accurate conclusions based on the media biased (Not anyone in particular on our site).

    If the media wants a story, why do they not figure out if Citigroup should get rid of their entire fleet of aircraft? How many pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, etc… would citigroup layoff? Would these layoff be acceptable because now citigroup would spend money on the economy’s behalf by flying commercial? Valid questions.

    My point was not to pick a political fight but rather point out the there is more to the juicy headline “Citigroup buys $50,000,000 plane with tax payer money, Obama says NO”
     
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  7. DarkHornet

    DarkHornet Louisiana Sports Fan

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    Very good thing to get balance to a story in the media, thanks for that. Given that, I still think (as you do also) that Obama did a good thing in putting a stop to it.

    Slightly off topic, can they really just not pay for the $50,000,000 jet? Considering the expense and the low number of them that are around, I'd assume the manufacturer doesn't build the jet until they have a buyer, and now that the jet is built, can they really just not pay for it? I'd imagine there'd have to be another buyer, or they'd have to take it. Don't think the jet manufacturer would take that kind of bottom line hit.
     
  8. Beaux-Bo

    Beaux-Bo Founding Member

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    I do not think that is off topic. That is the point. Citigroup already put significant money down and signed an airtight contract.

    Obama, his team and citigroup did the right thing from a PR perspective. Now Citigroup and the french company have to work out the divorce. I bet you citigroup looses millions on the deal. Was that the right business deal to make or was it a political move because of the media pressure?

    I could care less. I think all publicly traded companies should be run leaner. But if the stock holders do not care....
     
  9. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Probably the funniest thing you have said in FSA. Well, at least a Top 10.

    To the original thread: It matters little to me if citigroup paid for it yesterday or ten years ago. The banking industry has showed it's ass this past year, and is begging for $ to cover for it. Our $ I might add. And I recognize that newspapers will sensationalize a story in order to paint someone the demon. Smoking guns are always the point.

    All that aside, the perception of waste is uppermost in Americans minds as they lose their jobs and struggle with their bills. The people that do have jobs are struggling as well. It just ain't rosy out there right now, and there is little good news at the end of the day. I don't regard this as class warfare, but it would be in the longterm and short term interest of big business if they were to tread a bit more lightly.

    Ostentatious displays are just gonna get them slapped around, and their stocks can hardly afford any more drubbings. The responsible thing is to at least appear to do what every other American is having to do - being fiscally conservative.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Can somebody show me an example of "the liberal media" spinning this? I've just read the top 10 Googles on the story and every fact that has been discussed here has been reported. I see them reporting a story that is in the news. Where's the beef?
     

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