237 millionaires in Congress

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  1. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    At what point did we do away with term limits anyway? This seems like the most common sense way to correct the problem! Why not? Who can make an argument against them? Every state legislature I know of has term limits...why not the national legislature?
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Rwanda? Perhaps we should have invaded an occupied a country that is not an ally, is not essential US national interests, and whose people hate us? We would still be there taking casualties from both sides.

    Rwanda was a European colony, it was a European problem to solve, not ours.

    Clinton, Bush I, and Reagan understood that the US did not need to get mired in a foreign guerilla civil war that did not involve our national interests. That's why we're not still nation-building in Lebanon or Somalia and we declined to get mired in Iraq in 1991.

    We are not the world's policeman.
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    the US and UN cant be bothered with rwanda. better to let 800 thousand or whatever be slaughtered. dont worry though those same organizations are hard at work at saving folks through important bull**** like global warming legislation.

    fact: the rwandan genocide would have been stopped almost immediately had the victims been white.
     
  4. mike365

    mike365 Sports Addict

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    They preach to us that we need to share the wealth but we don't see them opening up their wallets.... The answer is to have a 1 or 2 term limit on ALL political offices.
     
  5. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Remember how I said politicians are scum of the earth.
    Include lawyers in that also!

    If its two things I hate the most its those two.
     
  6. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    as a knee jerk, gut reaction i would prefer no lawyers too. but joe the plumber could write legislation (or tell his staffers how) even if he could correctly decide what the law should be. if constituents are going to complain about legistators not reading legislation, then being a lawyer is a huge plus if not a requirement.

    not sure what you do about it. its too complex nowadays to go back to volunteer congress. i think public financing only, limiting media (why are all presidents tall and at least above average looking. i think the country would generally do better by voting for the shortest and/or ugliest person----paging henry waxman), and axing lobbying.

    what else is there to do short of scrapping the whole setup? i suppose you could cut way way way back on federal powers, or go to a true democracy (god that would be a clusterf__k)

    id like to get a rundown on how many of the millionaire congressmen are selfmade, before i agreed with this.
     
  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    roughly 50% of my friends are lawyers. i like them. hatred of lawyers never makes sense to me. the problem is the system. the problem is that we are terrble at understanding issues and at voting. [insert red's favorite quote from pogo here]

    correct.

    unspeakably terrible idea.

    growing up tall and handsome makes you confident.
     
  8. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    for the wrong reasons. thats how you end up with bushes and reagan running things.

    confident ugly people are better suited. marat for example. i vote for perot too.
     
  9. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    So then would you support Congrassmen Cao's vote on the health reform bill?
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I used to be big on term limits. After the recent experience in Louisiana, I now have mixed feelings. As much as I hated these people that stayed there for decades and got too powerful . . . the flip side of the coin has some issues, too.

    Matters like long-term planning, budgeting for the future, long-term goals, compromise and cooperation that pays off down the road have all suffered. Legislators are only going to be around for two short terms so they have lost all incentive to be good long-range managers. They know they won't be here to deal with problems in 10 years, so they focus all their attention on what they can get for their constitutents right now.

    Can't raise taxes or they won't get re-elected in 2 years, can't cut services either, but what they hell, they can rob money from the pension accounts and cut the education budgets and leave the issues they cause for future legislators to deal with. Just as long as they build that new gymnasium for the park in Merryville, they are happy and don't care if the state goes broke in 10 years.

    The other thing we lost was experience. Yes we rid ourselves of a lot of ingrained corruption, but the flip side is it makes every session full of newbies who have to learn how to legislate and compromise all learn the same lessons all over again. There is little collective knowledge passed along from past failures and successes.
     

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