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BostonBengal · Jan 4, 2005

radrod said:

...I don't get everyone's infatuation with hiring an NFL coordinator...all you have to do is look at Ron Zook. They are not proven recruiters and do not take the load on of a head coach. !!
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And John Bunting at UNC....

BostonBengal · Jan 4, 2005

WTF?!?!?!

neal said:

That is all Skip has done to this point.
Hired someone who MAY bring us back to the level that we are at right now.

Miles is a stretch, everyone knows it, and no one is questioning Skip as to why he needed to rush such an importanat decision and interview so few mediocre candidates.

I can't help but notice you're speaking of LSU on the same lines as Michigan, Miami, FSU, etc. Those teams are ALWAYS top 5. LSU, since Saban has been here, has been, on average a top 10-15 team.

Our winning of a National Title ONE YEAR has got you so blind and stuck on yourself that you fail to realize that, yes, we've had great recruiting classes, but have only finished in the top 5 once--maybe twice, in Saban's time here. We were totally out of the top 25 in 2002 at 8-5 and we're not going to be top 10 this year.

We were only top 10 in the two seasons that we won the SEC and the Sugar Bowl.

Weren't even RANKED in 2002.

And will finish in between 15-18 this season.

When you look at the grand scheme of things, we're NOT to a point where we "demand" Miami, FSU, MIchigan, Oklahoma, and Texas respect when it comes to finding a "hall of fame"-style coach that you speak of.

Whether you choose to admit it or not, :lsup: is a baby in this "dominant, national program party", where all of the schools that I've mentioned before have been having top-10 finishes more years than not over the past decade. We get 2, and you think we belong and EVERYONE across the country should know it???

Get real... I most certainly WANT to be on par with the consistant top-10 teams of the past decade, but we're not yet. We had better finish top 10 a little more before we start thinking that we can hire the Tedford's and Spurriers of the college football world away from Cal and South Carolina. In terms of "looking good for the future", Cal has EVERY right to feel just as good about their chances as we do ours. Tedford can look and honestly say, "Yes, they won a NC, yes they have a lot of talent. But so do we (Cal), and we were 'this close' to getting a BCS bid ourselves this year. Why should I leave??"

Les Miles was a GREAT hire. We got a coach from a BCS school, and like someone else said, that's NOT very common. Miles has come from a program that was ranked as high as 15th in the nation earlier this year with FAR LESS TALENT than what we have at LSU right now--and we're gonna finish the year at 15th. Ironic isn't it?

I wish you "Miles haters" would shut up! The hire is NOT going to change and there is NOTHING THAT LES MILES CAN DO RIGHT NOW TO PROVE HIMSELF--THE SEASON IS OVER! :angry: He can't make you naysayers think better until his first game....and that's not until September.

So do yourselves a favor and quite crying like a bunch of 3 year olds :bncry: that didn't get what they wanted at the toy store.

Les Miles is our coach and as of today has NOT LOST A GAME AT LSU. So ENOUGH of the crying. We're NOT OSU and he's NOT at OSU. He's a TIGER. Just like you and me. Move on!
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TexTiger · Jan 4, 2005

couldn't have said it better

Tiger Dabbs · Jan 4, 2005

Ditto that Boston... :thumb: :thumb:

Geaux Miles! :lsup:

Tampatiger84 · Jan 4, 2005

All I want is for them to do a decent search

and I do not feel like they have. No one really knows if this guy can recruit and no one really knows if this guy will keep us at a national power level. But what I do know is that this process was hurried for no reason and we may not have gotten the best that is available.

TwistedTiger · Jan 4, 2005

Tampatiger84 said:

and I do not feel like they have. No one really knows if this guy can recruit and no one really knows if this guy will keep us at a national power level. But what I do know is that this process was hurried for no reason and we may not have gotten the best that is available.
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I think most evidence points to the fact that he can recruit even at a second tier school. The bigger questions are can he put together a staff that can compete in the SEC, how good is his gameday coaching and will his offensive and defensive schemes work in the SEC. I'm not thrilled over the prospect of Clay as DC but I think our offense may actually be better off under Miles. Surely special teams will be better with anyone coaching them. I hope he also finds someone that is capable of developing QB's. Hiring a coach is a crap shot no matter how big the name, only time will tell if Miles is up for the challenge. Are Tiger fans up to the challenge of supporting the new coach, whether they feel he is a good hire or not, until he proves one way or the other if he can handle the job. While I wasn't doing cartwheels in the front yard after the press conference I am on board and support the new coach 100%. GEAUX TIGERS/GEAUX MILES

Laminator · Jan 4, 2005

Tampatiger84 said:

and I do not feel like they have. No one really knows if this guy can recruit and no one really knows if this guy will keep us at a national power level. But what I do know is that this process was hurried for no reason and we may not have gotten the best that is available.
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First of all.. I have to assume you mean NFL coaches. You don't think Skip had been gauging interest in prime NFL coaches/assts? Do you think that news of the LSU HC position hadn't made it to them? Like an NFL coach is going to say, "boy, I'd sure love to coach me some Tigers.. but I'm just going sit here, not say anything through my agent, and hope that Skip comes and asks me for an interview." Don't be a retard. Skip, I'm sure, knew very early on which coaches might be interested. And as a general rule, unless you're going after a coordinator (which I don't see as great shakes personally.. what makes someone like Crennel a proven quantity?), NFL coaches don't come back to college unless they're losing (see: Wannstedt). Would THAT have made you happy?

Bottom line is, you're just a piddle little fan like the rest of us, and you know about .1% of the information regarding the search and how it went. To sit here and whine about it not being thorough, to me, just displays your complete lack of knowledge on the process. Bottom line, you don't "know" anything, and neither do the rest of us about how all this really went down (Crawfish aside of course, heh).

Skip: "Ehh, FU*K IT, I'm sick of interviewing people. It's SOOOO boring and I'm hungry. Hi Les, wanna come down to LSU? Sweet!"? :dis:

slider41 · Jan 4, 2005

Notes from the Peanut Gallery

I will bet my mortgage that the same people complaining about the search with their "inside" information and understanding of how Skip thinks were the same to think Josh Booty would bring us back to the promised land. Opinions are one thing, but make sure that you truly understand how the process works before criticizing from the outside. I will be that we only got 5% of the puzzle

Perple · Jan 4, 2005

Tampatiger84 said:

No one really knows if this guy can recruit and no one really knows if this guy will keep us at a national power level. But what I do know is that this process was hurried for no reason and we may not have gotten the best that is available.
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Advocate:
http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/010405/lsu_bertman001.shtml

Why would you want to forfeit 18 or more recruits, just so we could maybe find "The Perfect" coach sometime in March? BTW, Miles has already had some success in his first day in recruiting for LSU.

TwistedTiger · Jan 4, 2005

Perple said:

Advocate:
http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/010405/lsu_bertman001.shtml

Why would you want to forfeit 18 or more recruits, just so we could maybe find "The Perfect" coach sometime in March? BTW, Miles has already had some success in his first day in recruiting for LSU.
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While I think Miles will do fine you don't rush to hire a coach just to save one recruiting class. If this was the guy LSU wanted fine but you shouldn't settle on a lesser coach just to save one recruiting class especially with the low number we will be able to hire this year. To answer your question yes you would sacrifice 18 or more recruits to find the right coach. Besides it's time to move on about whether he is the right coach or not, he IS our coach and it's time for everyone to support him and the Tigers.