Worst Coaches in the SEC over the last 20 years

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  1. LSU Rubi

    LSU Rubi Founding Member

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  2. Indiana Tiger

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    Archer was worse. Hallman at least left the program in better shape than what he inherited.
     
  3. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    Tough call

    Archer won with the talent that was handed to him, just was in capable of replenishing that talent.
    Hallman brought in some pretty good talent, just couldn't win with them.

    So, I think Hallman gets the nod for being the worst. DiNardo (who never had a winning record previously) stepped right in and won 10 games in his 2nd year.
     
  4. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    Hallman was worse than Archer, but Archer had to be the worst recruiter in history. Guys were leaving the state like it was a sinking ship. Every premier program in the country had stars from Louisiana playing for them; Marshall Faulk had to resort to playing for San Diego State. What was Archer thinking?!
     
  5. Indiana Tiger

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    A head coach is a program manager. Archer thoroughly obliterated the LSU program. Hallman improved the program. There are lags in the system that people don't want to see. I'm not saying we should worship Hallman, but it should be recognized that he improved the program while Archer destroyed it.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Archer had a 10-win season and a bowl victory. Curly had four straight losing seasons. All you have to do is watch the 1994 Auburn game to see what a blithering idiot Curley Hallman is as a coach. Up by three scores in the 4th, Curley decides to throw the football and gets four interceptions returned for touchdowns, all on the same stupid rollout pass play. A good coach would never have allowed the play to happen twice. Curley called it three more times and lost the game.

    Archer could probably make this list, but Curley owns #1.
     
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  7. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    hallman could take the defending superbowl champs and not be able to beat vandy with them. ok, maybe a slight exageration, but not much.

    just the thought of those years is enough to need anti-anxiety drugs.
     
  8. Potted Plant

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    Archer was definitely better than Hallman. I've talked to some old players over the years, and they say that Archer's mind for the game was great. Hallman was living 20 years in the past and using systems that would not have been sophisticated for high school teams. He also deliberately threw the veterans he inherited under the bus, and supposedly coached like he knew he was living on borrowed time from day one. He wanted to make sure people BELIEVED the team he inherited had no talent, so they would tolerate losing for a while. He broke NCAA rules by having players wrestle each other in supposedly non-contact workouts, often setting up purposeful mismatches, such as linebacker vs. punter or defensive tackle vs. wide receiver. He was a "Bear" man who tried to recreate the "Bear" Junction Boys atmosphere, but without the knowledge or the command of respect to pull it off, so he just came off to the players like a sadistic buffoon.

    I hear that when he became a position coach at Alabama, the players just laughed at him because his instruction was so laughably stupid.
     
  9. Indiana Tiger

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    87: 10-1-1
    88: 8-4
    89: 4-7
    90: 5-6

    Maybe there was hope for 10 wins in the future with Archer, but I really, really doubt. It seems to me that you would end up in the same place with Archer. With Curley at least he brought in the talent that somebody could win with. Nobody could have won with Archer talent, certainly not this genius 10 win coach who didn't even have to deal with the full force of own recruiting classes.
     
  10. houtiger

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    This discussion is one of the very few on TF in the past 5 years that has DEPRESSED ME!!! WOHW! Bad thoughts!!!
     
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