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With draft as measuring stick: The shift of power within SEC since divisional splits...1994-today

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NFL Draft Rewind:

Observations:
* Let’s start with the fastest riser — LSU. The Tigers were middle of the pack in terms of NFL production between ’94 and ’03, but once Nick Saban opened all the valves on the Tigers’ Louisiana talent pipeline… forget about it. LSU has produced 31 more NFL picks in the past decade than it did in the decade prior. That’s three more pros per year on the Tiger roster. Given that players are usually on a roster for four years that number is even more impressive. In terms of a ballpark number, LSU has about 12 more NFL-capable players on its roster in a given year than it did a decade ago. Even when those players are freshman or reserves, they’re still providing greater overall depth. And that even raises the level of LSU’s practices. Kudos to the Tigers. Plus-31 is darn impressive.

* If you’re wondering how Steve Spurrier (and Lou Holtz before him) began to raise South Carolina from the bottom of the SEC to the top just check USC’s roster. The Gamecocks no longer cede the best players in their home state to Clemson and raiding SEC rivals. They now go into Georgia and nab prospects just as Auburn and Tennessee have, traditionally. Carolina has had 18 more players picked by NFL teams in the past decade than in the previous decade. It’s not hard to make the correlation between a more talented roster and more victories.

* Other schools seeing boosts of 10 or more pro picks? Arkansas (plus-13), Missouri (plus-12), and Alabama (plus-10). Hog fans need to credit Bobby Petrino and — though it might make a few of them sick — Houston Nutt for raising the talent level in Fayetteville. Nutt was driven out of town with torches and pitchforks, but he began the Razorbacks’ talent swell. A coach on the hot seat this year is Gary Pinkel, but he’s taken Mizzou from the bottom of the ’94-’03 column and increased the school’s draftees by 12 over the past decade. Whether fans feel he’s worn out his welcome or not, Pinkel deserves many thanks for lifting Tiger football to the point that it no longer lags behind Kentucky and Vanderbilt in terms of talent. Finally, there’s Alabama. As he did at LSU, Saban has turned the Tide into one of the nation’s strongest football factories, cranking out pro prospects in bulk. Anyone think that plus-10 number for Bama won’t grow larger when we run through this exercise again next year?

* As for large drops, Florida stands at minus-8 in our decade-to-decade comparison. Granted the Gators produced a strong class of 56 draftees in the previous decade, but for a school that’s won two BCS championships between ’04 and ’13, it’s very odd to see a drop in draft-worthy talent. It’s a reminder that UF’s titles were mixed in among one six-loss season, three five-loss seasons, and a four-loss year over the past decade.

* Dan Mullen gets — and deserves — credit for creating energy and excitement at Mississippi State. But there’s no denying that the Bulldog program still lags behind talent-wise where it stood under Jackie Sherrill. Under that regime, State produced 14 more NFL draftees from ’94-’03 than it has in the decade that’s followed. Of course, Sherrill’s reign ended with four years of probation for MSU, too.

* Speaking of Sherrill, another of his ex-schools is on the “big decline” list. After running RC Slocum off in 2002, Texas A&M has struggled mightily to return to its previous glories. The Aggies produced 20 fewer pro draft picks in the last decade than they did in the previous 10 years. Obviously, Kevin Sumlin — with a great deal of help from Johnny Manziel — lifted A&M back into the top 10 last season. And his roster includes a number of pro prospects recruited by his predecessor, Mike Sherman. Toss in Sumlin’s excellent work on the recruiting trail, Texas’ deep talent pool, and the draw of being the only SEC school in the Lone Star State and it’s hard to imagine A&M’s pro numbers not booming in the opposite direction over the next 10 years.

* And finally, we arrive at the anti-LSU. While Saban and Les Miles were stockpiling more and more talent on the Bayou, Tennessee — first with Phillip Fulmer, then with Lane Kiffin and Derek Dooley — saw its talent pool run dry. Over the past decade, UT has been in the middle of the pack in terms of NFL draft picks, but when you compare middle of the pack from ’04-’13 to the absolute top of the heap during the ’94-’03 span, you’re talking about a precipitous drop. In the latter decade, Tennessee cranked out 68 NFL picks. That was 12 more than Florida or anyone else in the SEC. That was seven more NFL-worthy players than even LSU has produced in the most recent decade. In the 10 years that followed, however, the Vols produced an astounding 33 fewer pro draftees. Thirty-three. As was the case — in reverse — with LSU, that’s about three fewer drafted players per season. Factor in that most players are on campus for four years and you’re looking at a Tennessee roster that for the last decade has featured — ballpark — about 12 fewer future pros per year. No wonder the Volunteers have fallen from the top of the league toward the bottom-third.
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compare the winning percentage of the teams over those two eras...

Winning Percentage 1994-2003 (10 years)
79.2% -- Tennessee (99-26) -- National Champs 1998
78.3% -- Florida (99-27-1) -- National Champs 1996
69.3% -- Georgia (84-37-1)
63.2% -- LSU (76-44-1) -- National Champs 2003
63.2% -- Auburn (76-44-1)
61.5% -- Alabama (75-47)
58.5% -- Ole Miss
56.2% -- Arkansas
48.3% -- Miss State
43.9% -- South Carolina
36.8% -- Kentucky
25.0% -- Vandy

Winning Percentage 2003-2012 (10 years)
81.1% -- LSU (107-25) -- National Champs 2003, 2007
74.8% -- Florida (98-33) -- National Champs 2006, 2008
73.5% -- Georgia (97-35)
68.8% -- Auburn (88-40) -- National Champs 2010, 13-0 in 2004 (#2 behind USC)
66.4% -- Alabama (73-37) -- National Champs 2009, 2011, 2012
61.1% -- South Carolina (77-49)
59.2% -- Arkansas
57.1% -- Tennessee
45.1% -- Ole Miss
42.6% -- Miss State
42.3% -- Kentucky
36.4% -- Vandy

Tiger_fan, Apr 30, 2013

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Fire Les Miles! He can't coach or develop talent. If he wasn't coach LSU would have a 99.9% winning percentage and 5 NCs. Charts don't lie, the man is obviously a loser.

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LSUDieHard said: ↑

Fire Les Miles! He can't coach or develop talent. If he wasn't coach LSU would have a 99.9% winning percentage and 5 NCs. Charts don't lie, the man is obviously a loser.
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What he said.

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What he said.
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Seriously, why isn't this clown run out of town yet?

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They managed to give Saban credit for LSU's recruiting success as well as Bama's. Didn't even mention Les despite Nick having two LSU recruiting classes since 2003 to Les' nine. Poor old Les is still winning with Nick's talent, I suppose.

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LSU recruiting is at its peak over the last 4+ years. Stats wouldn't explain that too well but blatantly obvious.

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Just more of the Satan suckfest

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Just more of the Satan suckfest
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And no love for Dinardo once again.

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And no love for Dinardo once again.
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Or Shula.

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