Wisconsin schools call off classes as budget protests continue

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    There are the links that back up what I have read. If you agree with them or not is ok. I am no more a idealogue than you are. We both just have diffrent opinions. I still think you are brilliant and enjoy your insight red but I didn't make anything I said up. I read alot too.:popcorn:
    I'm sure that you can but you are completely full of chit. You can't back up these wild claims with evidence. I challenge you to do it. Quoting Limbaugh or Beck doesn't qualify, they are known liars. You should read more and listen to less right-wing radio. They are lying to you.
    I put the links to every story I mentioned
     
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    There is not one thing in this story about "students hold up signs at a meeting saying babykiller to a vet with both his legs blown off who are they". In fact democrats are not mentioned in the story either. Did you invent those facts?

    The story is about a public hearing on whether to add ROTC to a university that hasn't had it for 40 years. It was a contentious student meeting with heckling. One of the speakers spoke in favor of the ROTC was a wounded war veteran. These are the facts using your own source.

    No babykillers, no legs blown off, no democrats. In a hearing there are going to be two sides arguing their case. It's opponents expressing anger to proponents. It's fundamental American democracy at work. What the problem with that?

    What part of the Constitution don't you understand? We are free to protest against the government in this country. Some people don't like Marines, I guess. It's Berkeley for Christ sakes!

    You know mean the City Council actually urged the Recruiters to leave town and they are the local government. I thought conservatives wanted more power in the hands of local governments?

    Nowhere were democrats mentioned in the story.
     
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    I didn't read the article. I found the link. I heard the audio. I heard them say babykiller and the part about the sign I heard on local morning show. You don't think CNN will give all the details. Believe me the audio I heard was bad. It's ok though. This is America and anyone can say what they want. My point was earlier that these things come from liberals. I used to vote about 50/50 but I have been turned off by things like this. And yes he was in a wheelchair. He took machinegun fire and was hit seven times causing his legs to be removed. I will find it too. This was a shiztty thing to do IMO. That's why I will never vote democrat again. Now let me get to finding these legs
     
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    Students Jeer Iraq War Vet at Columbia University ROTC Meeting - DNAinfo.com
    
contains picture of him in his wheelchair. He was also shot 11 times not seven. I'm not making up facts. The report I heard said babykiller sign was there and people were shouting it. Let me keep looking. I don't care if your a democrat. What I care about is you saying I'm making stuff up. The man is in a wheelchair. He was shot 11 times. Who else but liberals at Columbia university would jeer him?
					
     
    
				
    
			
    
			
			
		
    
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
				
		
    
			
			
    
				
				
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					Columbia University students heckled a war hero during a*… student who commutes to Fordham University for ROTC coursework, .... they march with painted faces and trite sayings on signs,*… his appointment and call him a baby killer and war monger.*…
    
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					DADT is over but will the Ivy League allow ROTC? - National Law ...
    
Feb 21, 2011… was shouted down by hecklers calling him a “racist” and a baby killer. Columbia is considering an end to its ban on ROTC and*… Some Ivy League universities, such as Harvard, allow students*…
    
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The ROTC left Columbia in 1969, due to fallout resulting .... by students with " sieg heil" and "hey baby killer.*…
    
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					Now I'm done. By saying I made this up that's calling me a liar. I may not be as educated as you but I'm not a liar. You can have your opinions. That's cool. This is America.
					
     
    
				
    
			
    
			
			
		
    
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
				
		
    
			
			
    
				
				
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    I understand. But they are things I'm compelled to challenge in a debate forum.
    

    




    
	

    I haven't called you a liar, I called SabanFan a liar. I do think you have a vivid . . . imagination. :wink:
    

    
I suggest that you are misguided by believing facts not in evidence. I endeavor to point out these facts.
    

    
None of us agree with anybody else here politically, amigo. It's a forum for political debate and none of the long-timers take anything personally. SabanFan would give me the shirt of his back . . . and then take it off his AIG expense account.
    

    
We will ruthlessly shoot your arguments full of holes, though. But anyone who gets angry and upset at an anonymous internet character needs serious help. Except SabanFan, who gets angry and upset because he likes the way it feels. He's buff, you know.
					
     
    
				
    
			
    
			
			
		
    
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
				
		
    
			
			
    
				
				
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					We can respectfully disagree. Even though I don't agree with you politically I do enjoy reading your post. Goodnight
					
     
    
				
    
			
    
			
			
		
    
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
				
		
    
			
			
    
				
				
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    You made along list of things that I can demonstrate are false. What am I supposed to do, use code words?. If you are going to be this sensitive when your inflammatory rhetoric is challenged, perhaps a political debate forum is not for you. if you are going to throw hardballs, don't cry when they come back at you.
    

    




    
	

    They were jeering his message. They had a right to do so. It was a public hearing.
    

    
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