WILL YOU BE NICE TO LEE???

not only that, Lee threw a pick 6, if not for that pick six we don't have to mount a comeback. Keiland threw a touchdown pass in the 2nd half, and the one bomb Lee completed was more like a last second fullcourt basketball shot, he threw it up got smoked, and it was a great pass, but i think it was more luck than anything, although he did have a great deep throw in the Ole Miss game before he got smoked that chris mitchell dropped.

i don't think we can credit Lee with the comeback of the century against Auburn, now against Troy, he saved LSU's ass from the most embarrassing loss since UAB, i will give him credit for that.

 

that is completely fair.

 

Well, I can't speak for everyone Crip, but the way I look at it is this:

Absolutely there's a chance the experience won't change things. There's chances of lots of things happening, but they can't play the game around that.. it's like holding out a star play maker because there's a chance he'll get hurt. Yes he made some piss poor throws and decisions, no doubt about it.

But picture this possibility:

Maybe had our defense held up to the standards we are all used to, Lee wouldn't have had the pressure on him he had. That pressure could have contributed to the poor decisions he made or the throws he had to try to force. In other words, I'm not looking at it as being experience that's going to make the difference alone. I look at it as all those factors having something to do with Lee's, and the team's performance.

Of course, it's kind of a chicken and the egg thing.. Did the poor defensive play put pressure on the offense to force plays and make mistakes? Or did the poor offensive performance cause the obviously under prepared defense to be out on the field more than they should have been? We could have just as easily ended up 4-9 or 10-3 last year had one or 2 plays gone differently... The team as a unit was just unstable and inconsistent.

I'm just saying, if there's a chance that experience alone won't make an improvement, then there's a chance that there was more than his lack of experience that aided in his bad play last year.

 

You are exactly right!!!!!

No one knows what the hell will happen come Sept 5th.....and for anyone to sit there and say matter of factly that his experience WILL KICK and any other point of view is wrong is just ludicrous.

 

I totally agree with what you said there.

Personally I lean towards the point that the defense was on the field WAY TO MUCH with the offenses inability to sustain time consuming drives...to give the defense a time to catch their breath and time to make adjustments.

 

I'm pretty sure the coaches will try and prop Lee up by putting him in situations they don't think he can handle. It's not like their jobs depend on LSU's success or anything.

 

If all ints are avoidable, then so are all fumbles, all penalties, all unsportsmanship calls, etc. A perfect game. What about the other team? That turns into the "if" game. If our guy had not fallen. If our guard didn't step on the qb's foot hihi

How many of Lee's pick sixes where thrown from the LSU five or ten? They didn't usually just walk in........the other ten LSU players took a "oh well...not my fault attitude and seemed to quit. Or at least expend "little" effort to stop the six.

 

Kind of like "co-defensive co-ordinators" huh......

 

All mistakes are avoidable...period. I never said the TDs resulting from the ints were all Lee's fault. In fact, save for the first against AU, every other one had others that could've prevented the TD...and they share the blame. One of them was a ball that should've been caught...several times...by Demetrius Byrd. Instead, he bobbled into the air until finally a defender grabbed it. I stated very clearly more than once in this very thread that all interceptions are avoidable...but not necessarily by the QB. Sometimes it's the receiver's mistake that...had it not been made...could've avoided the int. Sometimes it can be the OL or blocking back that misses a block and causes the QB to be hit from the blindside as he throws. Avoidable...but not the QBs fault.
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If you think mistakes are unavoidable...I wouldn't want you working for me. I'm not saying "no mistake is acceptable"...but they are all avoidable. It doesn't matter if it's ints, fumbles, forgetting to write a debit in your checkbook, mailing your taxes a day late, whatever. Mistakes are avoidable.