Why was Saban mediocre here?

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Does alot = loaded? See to me loaded is 3 deep at every position, the 2011 roster was loaded.
     
  2. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    "Top Heavy" may be a better description.
     
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  3. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    Tell that to all of the "Miles won his NC with Saban's players" clowns. Please.
     
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  4. LSUDad

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    Depth? You can only put 11 on the field at a time. LSU had the players to run with most teams. Like I said, Hal Hunter proved this...
    As for the movement of Josh Reed, this was done before the 2000 season, from the LSU Sports.....

     
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  5. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    Once again I am bringing this to debunk the theory that Saban didn't have a ton in place here when he arrived.

    I have this one record every time this gets brought up. Each one of these made a NFL roster at one point.


    Fred Booker
    Jerel Myers
    Ryan Clark
    Rohan Davey
    Trev Faulk
    Bradie James
    Corey Webster--
    Josh Booty
    Craig Nall
    Randall Gay--
    Marcus Randall--
    LaBrandon Toefield
    Josh Reed
    Devery Henderson--
    Eric Alexander--
    Dominick Davis
    John Corbello
    Lionel Turner--
    Jarvis Green
    Rodney Reed
    Donnie Jones
    Stephen Peterson--
    Jack Hunt--
    Robert Royal
    Howard Green
    Eric Edwards
    Norman LeJeune
    Kenderick Allen
    Abram Booty
    Adrian Mayes--
    Brandon Winey


    The ones with -- following the player are guys who were recruited by both Dinardo and Saban and most of them were on board before Saban arrived on November 30th. I left Lavalais and Mauck off the list because both were persuaded by Saban to join the team.
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Do you consider that loaded, or top heavy? I don't think anyone is denying there was a great nucleus, and he could hit the ground running, but loaded?
     
  7. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    I would say any team with that many players considered to be NFL talent as fairly loaded. There were also many other big contributers in that class and that class was very successful in college ball. This is one of the big reasons Saban wanted to come here and Emmerrt sold it. I would also contend if you went and picked the same types of players in any given class from LSU National champiohsip years or what others considered loaded teams you would see about the same number of players.
     
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  8. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    3 respected posters in Dad, Tiga, and Bhelm with the same stance. I will stand down now admit defeat in this debate.
     
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  9. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Well then I'll answer the question you injected about underachieving- sorta. :D

    At the time, no. By today's standards, as someone already pointed out, yes. That's not really answering, I guess. At least it's riding the fence, maybe. Don't mean to do that but two different times and two different standards. Like Saban once said, "This year's accomplishment becomes next year's expectation." That always stuck with me.

    I'm pretty sure it's red who's often said Saban had to change the culture here. Not that we didn't have an overall "winning program" but he put us on that "next level" imo.
     
  10. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    I agree Saban brought that mentality and Dinardo started the cycle of making sure our talent doesn't leave the state.
     
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