Why Trent Johnson should be fired

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  1. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    I get what you are saying and I share your frustration. I hate to watch any LSU team lose. That said, Trent had a pretty darn good recruiting year last year with the additions of O'Bryant, Hickey and Isaac. If Trent doesn't pull it together in the next few years I will want a change also, but for now I just think, all things considered, the verdict is still out.
     
  2. COramprat

    COramprat Simma Da Na

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    Let me get this straight. This kid is upset that the head basketball coach of a major SEC team couldn't take time to show up at his basketball games which, coincidentally, run concurrent with LSU's 30+ game schedule at two maybe three games a week, practice every day and all of the contractual duties Johnson has with TV and personal appearances. I thought this was why he has recruiters. I don't hear any mention of off season visits...so he is just upset that Johnson didn't make time to see him play out of the 40-50 recruits LSU seeks each season? Give me a freakin break.

    I've seen him play...he is good but I don't see a superstar. He may be a good player in a few years but right now he is bench material at a major program.
     
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  3. pharpe

    pharpe Founding Member

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    So a top BB recruit is a prima donna. Shocker!

    That just dictates the style in which you recruit him. This kid likes attention and needs to feel like he is a high priority. It’s not just about how many games TJ can attend. That’s just a symptom of how he was recruited and a case of LSU not understanding its target. TJ needs to asses each recruits priorities and develop the correct to appeal those priorities. Obviously in this case TJ was unable to do that as well as Baylor’s coach.

    To say, “He was a prima donna. We don’t want him anyway.” is a just sour grapes. Of course we wanted him.

    Obviously this is no reason to fire a coach. Just one small example of him not getting the job done. Eventually you need to add up all the fails, put them against his successes, and decided if he is the right man for the job.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No it ain't.

    A coach promotes the school and the team and the coaches. The recruit promotes his talent and his attitude. Hopefully both sides are happy. But any time a coach kisses a recruits backside to get him to sign . . . then start worrying about a coach paying a recruit to get him to sign.

    I've had enough of LSU basketball probation. If Johnson is running a clean program, that is what I expect from him. If he loses an occasional player who wants some kind of "special treatment", then that is better than signing another Lester Earl.
     
  5. Tiger_fan

    Tiger_fan Veteran Member

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    Trent's response to Rico's claims:

    Gathers: LSU not aggressive in recruiting | LSU | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, LA


    also, you've got to remember that Trent did get the following six Rivals150 guys to commit to LSU, and they were all ranked Top 30 at their position:

    2009 -- Aaron Dotson* -- #89 on the Rivals 150 (#21 SG)
    2010 -- Matt Derenbecker* -- #77 on the Rivals 150 (#16 SF)
    2010 -- Andre Stringer -- #107 on the Rivals 150 (#27 PG)
    2010 -- Ralston Turner, #142 on the Rivals 150 (#28 SF)
    2011 -- Johnny O'Bryant -- #46 on the Rivals 150 (#4 C)
    2012 -- Malik Morgan -- #75 on the Rivals 150 (#11 SG)

    *Dotson and Derenbecker are no longer on the team (Dotson transferred to Utah after 2 years at LSU, Derenbecker transferred to Dayton after 1 year at LSU)


    and it's not like LSU is the only one recruiting the guys that Trent got:

    2009 -- Aaron Dotson*, offers to:
    --Louisville (Rick Pitino, nine NCAAT appearances since 2000)
    --Washington (currently #1 in Pac 12, six NCAAT appearances since 2004)
    --Southern Cal (six NCAAT appearances since 2001)
    --Wake Forest (seven NCAAT appearances since 2001)
    --etc

    2009 -- Eddie Ludwig, offers to
    --Cal (six NCAAT appearances since 2001)
    --Davidson (six NCAAT appearances since 2002)
    --etc

    2010 -- Matt Derenbecker*, offers to
    --Georgetown (currently #12 in US, five NCAAT appearances since 2005)
    --Georgia Tech (five NCAAT appearances since 2001)
    --Stanford (eight NCAAT appearances since 2000)
    --Alabama (five NCAAT appearances since 2002)
    --Oklahoma State (eight NCAAT appearances since 2000)
    --Ole Miss, etc

    2010 -- Andre Stringer, offers to
    --Southern Cal (six NCAAT appearances since 2001)
    --Alabama (five NCAAT appearances since 2002)
    --etc

    2010 -- Ralston Turner, offers to
    --Notre Dame (seven NCAAT appearances since 2001)
    --Alabama (five NCAAT appearances since 2002)
    --Georgia (four NCAAT appearances since 2001)
    --Auburn, Ole Miss, etc

    2010 -- Jalen Courtney, offers to
    --Missouri (currently #4 in US, seven NCAAT appearances since 2000)
    --Arkansas (five NCAAT appearances since 2000)
    --Auburn, Ole Miss, etc

    2011 -- Johnny O'Bryant, offers to
    --Miss State (currently #20 in US, six NCAAT appearances since 2002)
    --Maryland (eight NCAAT appearances since 2000)
    --Georgia Tech (five NCAAT appearances since 2001)
    --Miami (three NCAAT appearances since 2000)
    --Alabama (five NCAAT appearances since 2002)
    --Ole Miss, etc

    2011 -- Anthony Hickey, offers to
    --Miss State (currently #20 in US, six NCAAT appearances since 2002)
    --Tennessee (eight NCAAT appearances since 2000)
    --Texas Tech (four NCAAT appearances since 2002)
    --WKU (five NCAAT appearances since 2001)
    --Southern Illinois (six NCAAT appearances since 2002)
    --Cincinnati (seven NCAAT appearances since 2000)
    --South Carolina, Nebraska, etc

    2011 -- Justin Hamiliton
    --not sure who he had offers to once he transferred from Iowa State, but he's currently #1 on our team in points per game, blocks per game, and rebounds per game

    2012 -- Malik Morgan, offers to
    --Missouri (currently #4 in the US, seven NCAAT appearances since 2000)
    --Oklahoma (eight NCAAT appearances since 2000)
    --Georgia Tech (five NCAAT appearances since 2001)
    --Boston College (seven NCAAT appearances since 2001)
    --etc
     
  6. COramprat

    COramprat Simma Da Na

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    This is precisely partial excerpts of articles lead to misunderstandings and misconstrued comments.

    Instead of posting the partial quotes of the article lets get the whole story in the original post.
     
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  7. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    Matt Mascona got a message from a current coach at his HS tonight while on the air. Can't remember what sport he coached but said "Trent Johnson was at the school more than I was".

    Not surprised based on Gathers' personality.
     
  8. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    THIS! I read the article after reading this post and have to say that there is a lot more to the article than what was presented here.
     
  9. LSUDieHard

    LSUDieHard Founding Member

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    LSU had a football coach that couldn't be bothered with recruiting and it set the program back for over a decade.
     
  10. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    it's just one recruit. should we fire les miles because landon collins went to Alabama?
     

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