Why the low rushing totals?

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  1. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    I know this to be true, but my point is that it sure doesn't SEEM like these guys (Scott in particular) are averaging what they are. Over 4 YPC is generally pretty good, no matter how you shake it. It's just weird.
     
  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    yeah and how's that working out? I understand running the ball to the short side, but mixing it up wouldn't hurt. Also running misdirections to the short side to me would be more effective. Also the option play to the short side of the field to me is ridiculous unless you see some serious mismatches.
     
  3. JohnLSU

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    Big picture: our entire running game and entire offense isn't working out so far.
     
  4. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    Actually the option is safer to the short side. If the pitch is dropped it's likely to just go out of bounds on the short side whereas it runs a MUCH greater risk on the strong side of getting covered by the defense - or worse...result in a scoop and score! This isn't EA Sports! :hihi:
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Low rushing for several reasons:

    1. Opponents are stacking the line to stop the run and daring our young QB to throw. He has thrown inconsistently so they are keeping 8 in the box.

    2. The coaches have been trying to develop a ground control, clock-eating running game that we will need to protect a lead. They can't develop it when they are down 14 against a major contender.

    3. The offensive line has underperformed a bit, but it's not all on them.

    4. Jefferson disguises handoffs poorly and sometimes tips the run. He will get better.

    5. Some of these defenses are overtly biting on the run and should be vulnerable to counters, traps, reverses, and screens that we haven't shown much of because we've been winning. So Georgia and Florida have seen no video of them when Crowton springs one. You have to sell the handoff before they bite on the fake.
     
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  6. downtown

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    Ignoring the other stats, our passing game has been much more successful where it counts: scoring. LSU has 8 passing TDs to just 3 in the running game. Charles Scott, who had 18 rushing TDs last year has ZERO this year. That's hard to believe. Charle's Scott's 4.2 per carry might seem pretty good, but if you look at what he's done at LSU, it's not good for him. His average last year was over a yard better per rush and even more in the past. The guy almost had 1,200 yds. last year and he's on track to do around 540ish in his last season if he keeps with this pace.

    I think this problem started later in the season last year. We haven't had a 100-yard rusher since November 1st of 2008. Scott didn't even break 100 against Troy and that's surprising (he had a lot of carries in that game too). He played really well against Bama considering their D, but had bad games against Ole Miss and Arkansas where he couldn't get anything on the ground. He did pretty good against GT though.

    KW is about where he was at last year. He looked really good in the first two games and has trailed off in the last two. I think the biggest thing is that we haven't been playing top notch talent and our running game hasn't taken off and is totally inconsistent. We didn't have a 100-yard rusher against ooh la la...enough said.

    With Scott though, it almost looks like something is wrong at times. He used to come out of that backfield at almost full speed and for a while now I don't think he's been getting to the line with near the speed that he used to display. I know the holes were bigger in the past, but even when they weren't he used to hit guys and take them for a few yards. Last week there were times when he got the ball, put his head almost straight down and just blended in with the crowd. I think many noticed that.

    Either way, I hope we can find some answers for him because he's been a great player for LSU and I'd like to see him have a good final year. We need him to have a good final year. The Vandy game encouraged me because although he didn't even average 4 per carry, he got us first downs on many big 3rd downs and did so without much of a whole against a good D. He carried the crowd like he did in the past. But it hasn't been like that since then. That's where we need him to be successful the most: short yardage situations.

    As for the other stuff...there are some positives to running to the short side of the field, but that run with Trindon last week was not smart. He had about an inch to maneuver and we know that he doesn't do much when he doesn't have a least some decent space to work with. And running the option on that side is a little safer, but you also have less chance for the big play a lot of times because it's easy to just run guys out of bounds.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Setting up the reverse by Holliday to the strong side that we haven't seen yet. The reverse that you know is coming.
     
  8. Kurtis Bleaux

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    Holliday is a speed guy who needs that extra space to put some distance between him and unblocked defenders. Even if defenders knew the play was coming it still could be neutralized by Holliday's (or Shepard's) speed.
     
  9. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Not to change the subject but I'm fascinated by your name.:grin:
    Imagine if you insert some random names in there after kill.
    I wonder what would happen?:popcorn:
     
  10. JohnLSU

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    We did that vs. Ohio State in the Championship game. Right hash mark, option to the wide-side of the field with Holliday... and Holliday ended up running all the way back across the field to get to the weak-side of the field... so it could make one wonder why we didn't just option with him to the weak-side of the field in the first place. At the 3:09 mark.

    Note that the plays that have worked out the best for Trindon are when we line him up as a reciever, and then have him do an end-around to the other side of the field.

    [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-O-4OglHwg [/MEDIA]
     

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