It's soooo frustrating when we dont even try to do something else. I mean hell, put Shep or Ware back there. Really, can it get much worse? TAKE A CHANCE!!!!
Here's the problem though, and it's one that goes beyond Crowton. Auburn saw late last season that they really had nobody at QB to build on for the future. So what did they do? They went out and found the best JUCO QB they could find, and they made the hard sell. And look at the turnaround they've had in 1 YEAR. They didn't sit back on their hands and say "Well, our QBs looked good in practice. We just need it to translate on the field." They actively went out and found a solution to their problem. Consider the fact that we have that laundry list of failures/flakeouts/no-shows in under 3 years. There's something very wrong with this picture. And if you're not sold on Crowton's incompetence yet, think about Shepard. Think about all the interviews where you've heard him talk about various issues. Does that kid strike you as someone who's incapable of understanding a playbook? That is COMPLETELY on terrible coaching.
Hell isn't McCartney still on the roster? He's a QB right, give him a shot... no one knew who Mauck was until he got a chance, and he torched UT. What's the worse that could happen, he turns the ball over? Uh oh, yup, been there done that with a junior QB.
If we had receivers that could catch, we'd see improvement and be average at worst. As it stands, when JJ or JL manage to make a good play, it's nullified by a drop. When you have poor QB play AND receivers who consistently drop the ball (looking at you, TT and RS) the result is a below-average passing game and offense.
That just isn't so. He has coached some really good qb's. Glenn Foley at Boston College, Tim Rattay for LA Tech, John Beck BYU, Brandon Doman who threw for over 4000 yards when Crowton got there, Kellen Clemons and Dennis Dixon at Oregon. So he just forgot how to coach up a quarterback when he got to LSU? I'm not defending the guy, well maybe I am a little, but seriously it brings up the old question, how much interference is Les running with the offense? Is the Crowton Miles combination a disaster, or is it the result of just 1 person, or do our quarterbacks just suck balls?
I enjoy going back and forth with you, so i'm not going to argue with you on this, although patterns do not lie, and his pattern has shown time and time again he gets worse each and every year he stays somewhere. It's been his MO at how many stops? If he's such a bad ass OC, and he was being hindered by Miles... why wouldn't he leave? If I was an OC with the master plan, and the HC was holding me down, i'd be gone in a heart beat... the answer is simple... he hasn't got a clue and is just sitting by and collecting a nice big fat free check until he's forced out. Imo, he's taking advantage of Miles loyal side.
How many QBs on that list did Crowton actually develop from the ground up instead of driving a Cadillac made by other coaches? You can immediately cross out the 2 Oregon QBs since Crowton barely lasted 2 seasons there. Rattay is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. Crowton can take an already well-coached QB and a playbook nobody's seen before and be successful. The problems start showing up when those QBs leave and DCs start identifying weaknesses to exploit. When our fans can accurately predict what kind of play we run based on the personnel, you can bet professional DCs can, too. If you want to blame Les for the only successful part of our offense this year, then be my guest. We already saw the non-"handcuffed" Crowton playbook in all its glory last year when we ran 4 and 5 go-routes on 3rd and long where JJ got planted into the ground. And Crowton has a history of running the option with pocket QBs going back to BYU, so Miles isn't dictating that, either.
by all means i do not think he is a bad ass OC. I wouldn't leave LSU either, hell if the offense fails all he has to do is collect a paycheck and then tell possible suitors he was hindered by his head coach. "Look at the success i have had in other places and check out this fancy ring." He has shown the pattern of the offenses kind of regressing the longer he stays, that i cannot defend. I guess the only thing i am trying to convey is that it could be alot more complex than just Gary Crowton sucks, lets get rid of him. Should he be gone at the end of the year? Yes i think so, but just having him gone is not going to turn "good times" and Lee into Vince Young and Dan Marino.
That's sure as hell worked out pretty good for Studrawa so far, wouldn't you say? Especially when he had a promotion all lined up at Memphis.
Same thing here, can't believe he was retained either. Guess LSU is now a safe haven for have beens or never was coaches. Flat out frustrating. I can get down with this. It very well could be Miles, but imo, the logical thing is to replace the OC and Stud first (smaller of the 2 changes), bring in a good OC and then in another 2-3 years if things haven't changed then we replace the HC. But not doing anything just keeps adding fuel to the anti-Miles bandwagon, while I don't necessarily agree with 100% of the anti-Miles propoganda... he's kinda got himself to blame for it.
