Why not just run a spread run team?

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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Why don't we just run a version of a run based spread given our current talent?
     
  2. Winston318

    Winston318 I know football!!!!!

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    The spread is based off of being able to throw the ball to open up the run. With Jennings as qb we should probably run the wishbone triple option.
     
  3. Mezmorizor

    Mezmorizor Founding Member

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    Because spread run teams throw their defenses under the bus, and defense is LSU's strength. Plus, it's really not all that effective. It's a very gaudy offense, but at the end of the day you're telling the defense exactly what you're doing every single down. It works against teams that don't have the athletes/scheme to stop it, but when they do you have 2011 LSU-Oregon.

    Though I do wonder why we keep on recruiting dual threat QBs. We don't value them for their ability to scramble, we don't do much read option, and there's obviously no intention of ever running a "1 read or improvise" offense.

    The lack of read is what really puzzles me though. It means the QB has to take hits, but it's such an easy way to make your run game better. It's no coincidence that Alfred Morris is ~.7 ypc less effective without RGIII.
     
  4. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    You don't know football if you think Jennings is a running QB. He was recruited as a drop back passer and 247 Sports had him as the number 4 or 5 rated drop back passer his sr year in HS. Just watching him it is obvious he isn't a natural runner and the decisions he has made on options have been poor.
    Harris does have the potential to be a spread QB. However as has been pointed out running the spread option in the SE is not wise. It takes an exceptional QB to be successful ask Fl after Tebow or Auburn between Scam & Marshall how it works. Even when the faggies had J Fooseball and were playing teams that had not see them they have been handled by good Ds.
    Finally as Mexmorizer points out it tends to kill defenses.
    Go back to football school sport.
     
  5. Winston318

    Winston318 I know football!!!!!

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    What he was recruited as doesn't matter. My point is that he just isn't a good or consistent passer. You're crazy as hell if you think that he could run a traditional spread offense. Maybe he was a beast in high school, but as a college QB the game is too fast for him. He needs to be in the wishbone like I said.
     
  6. asignupe99

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    That's the thing. He wasn't a beast in high school. He performed well on the camp circuit and that's where he made his bones. but his actual stats were very "meh" so it's not like he has a huge number of reps. In all actuality if you count high school up to now, Harris probably has more live game passing reps than Jennings because Parkway aired it out 40-60 times per game. Jennings threw for 800 yards his senior year on an average team in mid-size classification. Harris threw for over 3000 in his in big boy 5A for a state title runner up. Hell the dude put up over 50 pts in a LOSING effort in the title game.

    Not making a case for either guy because Lord knows I'm sick of that argument and I'm set in my opinion which doesn't mean shit because I'm not the coach. All I'm saying is technically, considering the style of offense they learned at the high school level, Harris has a much more mature arm than Jennings. Jennings is essentially doing now what he did in high school. Throwing a little bit but mostly handing off. He did run a lot more in high school and he's pretty damn tough so he probably could run more.
     
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  7. LSUTiga

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    And the I formation utilizes play-action. Both require passing.
     
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  8. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    i think most folks with eyes can see harris is a much better talent. it would be nice if he had half the snaps of jennings at this point to begin the nurturing process that will be needed for next years max success.
     
  9. StaceyO

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    I suppose it would, but would you have traded in 7-3 for 3-7 at this point in the season for Harris to have more reps?

    I'm not at all suggesting that is what would have happened, but it might have. So, I'm curious what you think about that scenario.
     
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  10. LSU Strength

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    Running out of the spread was how we started off last year for the first few games, particularly against TCU. It worked incredibly well, and I wish we would go back to it. I like being a running team, and have no problem with that. what I hate is predictability and the stubbornness to keep trying the same crap over and over again and get a different result. No matter who our OC is, the offense ends up looking the same. That comes down to one man.
     
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