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Why isn't Obama getting blasted for not visiting Louisiana?

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LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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I agree, and I consider myself incredibly fortunate that in both the cases of Katrina and the floods, I live just outside the affected region and don't need a dime's worth of relief. So I won't defend or criticize the speed of the response to either. I'm just addressing the original topic, which was Obama's putting his feet on the ground and shaking hands with victims. Unless he's personally putting FEMA checks in the hands of victims, its pure symbolism. But if it makes the victims feel good, I'm all for it. The real work, getting FEMA, SBA, etc, moving, is already done. On a side note, I'm interested to see if Hillary will match or top Trump's arrival with a check and a truckload of supplies. So far all she's said is that she will visit at such time as when her presence won't hinder relief efforts. That's fine too, but if you're going to show up at all, you'd better be bringing more than photographers with you.
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I'm interested to see if the Clinton Foundations donate anything and how people will react to that.

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At the time it WAS about his flyover and nothing to do with the money. And there's no maybe about it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20071003222546/http:/www.hillaryclinton.com/files/audio/HRCscinv.mp3

"Calling the flyover a metaphor for Bush’s failed leadership candidate Obama said, “People looked up at the roof tops for too long they saw an empty sky.....We can talk about what happened for a few days in 2005 and we should,” Obama said. “We can talk about levees that could not hold … about a president who only saw the people from the window of an airplane instead of down here on the ground, trying to provide comfort and aid.”

"Without mentioning Bush directly, McCain said that when Katrina struck, "If I had been president, I would have ordered the plane landed at the nearest base and I'd have been over here." He repeated that later, saying, "I would've landed my airplane at the nearest Air Force base and come over personally."

"Hurricane Katrina in 2005 was the last straw for Bush's second term, with his widely criticized handling of the recovery pretty much precluding him from any kind of success in his final years in office. It was punctuated by his admonition that FEMA director Michael Brown was "doing a heckuva job" (amid a large number of complaints that Brown wan't up to the job), an iconic image of Bush flying over the wreckage of Katrina on his way back from a vacation rather than going there immediately, and rapper Kanye West saying during a Katrina telethon that Bush "doesn't care about black people." The last moment registered with Bush, who later called it the worst moment of his presidency."

So every facking person from Hillary to Obama to McCain to moronic Hollywood suck-ups were blasting Bush and pulling out the racist card but somehow Obama gets a hall pass? Fuck that.
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Did Obama hit the ground? Or just fly over everything?

Regardless, don't care if either one of them or any future president for that matter shows their sorry fucking faces in my state.

LaSalleAve, Aug 23, 2016

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LaSalleAve said: ↑

The thing about Bush was inaction on funding. Not the visit.
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Actually Bush declared the state and area a disaster prior to the storm hitting and released FEMA and other federal agencies to begin work. He pledged $52 billion to rebuild the area. When the management was not up to the task (it truly sucked) he replaced them.
The inaction he was falsely accused of was getting people out of the city and getting relief to the Superdome & Convention Center after. If you remember the devestation was so extensive and flooding so bad it took time to move everything the long distance. You can't evacuate too many people in helicopters.
The federal response was flawed but underlying the problem was the size of the storm and the complete failure of city and state governments. Nagin and Blanco were worse than useless.

Winston1, Aug 23, 2016

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LaSalleAve said: ↑

I'm interested to see if the Clinton Foundations donate anything and how people will react to that. .
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I'm sure they are ready with payday loans at 360% interest rates

Bengal B, Aug 23, 2016

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Actually Bush declared the state and area a disaster prior to the storm hitting and released FEMA and other federal agencies to begin work. He pledged $52 billion to rebuild the area. When the management was not up to the task (it truly sucked) he replaced them.
The inaction he was falsely accused of was getting people out of the city and getting relief to the Superdome & Convention Center after. If you remember the devestation was so extensive and flooding so bad it took time to move everything the long distance. You can't evacuate too many people in helicopters.
The federal response was flawed but underlying the problem was the size of the storm and the complete failure of city and state governments. Nagin and Blanco were worse than useless.
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Good info I was wrong, wasn't the first time won't be the last.

LaSalleAve, Aug 23, 2016

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Nope.

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Nope.
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You sure?

LaSalleAve, Aug 24, 2016

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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

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I've been wrong. I just never told my wife after we were married.

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