Why don't we sack the QB

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Here is the deal. LSU has had a single game where an all-out pass rush was not in the strategy. And that strategy was clearly successful. It doesn't mean that LSU will never sack again. Chavis has ends with 4.5 speed and backs and backers who blitz very well. Have patience and you will see sacks.
     
  2. msully

    msully Founding Member

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    It was a great defensive plan

    The defensive plan was to wear down the offense of WV . And it worked . can you even imagine how the offense felt knowing that they had broken a couple of records and too look up on the scoreboard and realized that they were not winning the game . ?? Heck fire , they the WV offense looked tired in the 4th quarter . Great game plan !!! LOL < GEAUX TIGERS !!!! :rofl:
     
  3. northernvatiger

    northernvatiger Founding Member

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    This is what is so impressive about winning the game. WV had passing yards galore and only 21 points to show for it, AND, they lost by 4 touchdowns!

    :geauxtige
     
  4. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    I think that is part of what happened Saturday night. However WVU also did a good job in pass protection and should be given some credit. Even when LSU blitzed which they did, very little pressure was put on the QB. Most of the time WVU threw the ball quickly and a good rush would have been too late. But even when the WVU QB sat back there all day he had little to no pressure. Again, partly because WVU did a good job up front. I think it also has some to do with LSU's youth up front. I think the pass rush will get better with time and experience.
    LSU has a good defensive staff. The film of the WVU game will be a good teaching tool all season. Just wait until Freak actually learns how to play the position and isn't relying on raw talent alone. The pass rush will improve.
     
  5. onceanlsufan

    onceanlsufan Founding Member

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    I think one of the main goals of the defensive strategy up front was to pin GSmith in the pocket, thus allowing the LBs to cover for passes. Hence, the DE went outside to cut off the roll or sweep, and the DTs clogged the inside to prevent a forward scramble.

    .... and it worked pretty fricken good ... to the tune of a 47-21 victory.
     
  6. west_tex_tiger

    west_tex_tiger Founding Member

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    After watching the replay, I understand our strategy and why we didn't get the sacks. The WVU offense is based on a lot of quick throws. Also, they used a lot of max protection with 7 blockers (5 O-Line with 2 backs) against our 4 man rush. Their pass blocking was pretty good, so it makes sense we didn't get the sacks. However, we were able to cover their 3 receivers with 7 defenders, which Chavis obviously thought was our best chance to slow them down. I would have liked to have seen more press coverage, since many of their short throws are timing routes which a good jam at the line could disrupt. However, Chavis gets the benefit of the doubt IMO based on the success he's had.
     
  7. BostonBengal

    BostonBengal Founding Member

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    1. It wasn't Fish that called you a "misinformed woman or a 10 year old child"...it was me. Try to comprehend what you read.

    2. Fish doesn't need your help to comprehend. He's been a valuable member with loads of insight and rational posts (both things you would serve well to take note and try to immulate).

    3. You use a blog from someone just as ridiculous as you to justify your ability to be right???? LOL!!! Awesome!

    4. Contrary to that crackpot blog you cited, these players don't get paid to do anything on the field....and if they did, the NCAA would surely have a fit and raise all sorts of Hell.
     
  8. Fishhead

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    These people know who I am, well, sorta. A few have met me, but most have had the pleasure (or displeasure if the shoe fits) of reading my posts/thoughts/opinions for years. Although we may not always agree with each other, I'm quite certain few if any would consider me to have the opinion of a misinformed woman or 10 yr old child. (I didn't call you that, by the way...)

    Not sure what your intentions were when you asked the question. I thought the question was worded a bit silly, but gave you an honest and mature answer, well thought out, and logical. If you disagree, it would better serve your cause...whatever that might be...to bring some semblance of mature and rational thought into the conversation. Perhaps some facts would help your case.

    Your question was "Why don't we sack the QB?". I provided factual information that disproves that theory. LSU does sack the QB. They just didn't sack the QB against WVU. I provided a logical opinion/explanation as to why they didn't sack the QB against WVU. That's all I've done here.

    Re-read my posts after you get done with your homework, and get back to me with a logical rebuttal, if you can conjure one up. :thumb:
     
  9. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    Wait...you rewatched the game after I had already explained this? :confused:

    I kid...I kid.

    Regardless of Holgerson's idiot/psychotic sideline demeanor, he is an offensive brain. He knew what LSU had, and it was his intention to exploit it. What LSU has is a strong defensive front, a SICK defensive backfield, and an average LB corps. What WVU has is no running game, no real downfield threats at WR, but a pretty accurate QB and two greased pigs for WR that are quick enough and have good enough hands to exploit our weakest link on defense. Those short quick strikes were the only chance they had, and he knew it. Chavis knew it too, and chose not to blitz or waste time trying to get to Geno Smith, because the ball wouldn't be in his hands for more than a couple of seconds. Later in the game, after Holgerson realized LSU wasn't applying pressure, he started taking more shots downfield...and Smith had an eternity to throw. Oh well, by that time, we were up 20. Too late. We win by 26 over the eventual Big East champ on the road at their place. I'm OK with this.
     
  10. Swerved

    Swerved It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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    UNLESS, that's not in the game plan to beat the opponent at hand, as was the case with WVU. Chavis knew that no matter how fast we are up front we weren't going to get to Smith before he threw, so he didn't bother. Try to look beyond the "OMG We gave up 463 yards passing!" mentality that's apparently stuck in your noggin and see the defensive play calling for what it was. Very, very effective.

    Of course they practice those things, and of course they practice pressuring the QB. Again, as pointed out numerous times in this thread, it wasn't part of the game plan to go after a QB like Smith. In the 4 games we played 2 wide open offenses, and only sacked the QB once against Oregon, and didn't sack Smith (IMHO is way more of a passing threat than Thomas for Oregon). Still, we handily, and apparently impressively, beat both teams with this strategy. Why would LSU do what the opponent spent all week practicing for and expects them to do? Chavis had them fooled, and apparently they weren't the only ones.
     

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