Who is Screwing Up the College Coaching Profession?

Maybe the pendulum will swing.

Intense competition causes tight margins.
Companies aren't loyal, so employees aren't loyal
Disloyal employees don't produce as much.
Quality/Profit suffers.
Highly paid consultant figures this easy sh!t out.
Company develops robust HR loyalty strategy.
Employees feel valued and stick around.
Quality/Profit soars.

But...Then...

Profits invite competition.
Intense competition causes tight margins.
Companies aren't loyal, so employees aren't loyal.....

Isn't this called a business cycle or something?

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This is an interesting subject, but I don't see any reason as to why a head coach has to be loyal to its employer or the fan base for that matter...As soon as they slip, they feel the hate from the fans which forces the employer to do something about it...If Miles leaves, I understand...Why would he be loyal to LSU when he has a 32-5 record and still has haters out there among LSU fans...I guess we wouldn't even be talking about this if BAMA had beat us...For reasons like that, coaches don't become to attached to the teams they coach.

 

I disagree. Disloyalty does not cause quality/profit to suffer. As long as both sides understand the relationship, each will be forced to provide the best they can for the other. If the employee doesn't produce, he will be fired. If the company doesn't provide great compensation & benefits then the employee will leave.

A degree of loyalty is important; if people are fired for no reason their incentive to work hard & move up the corporate latter at that company diminish, but firing for a lack of results only strengthens the company.

More likely, a highly paid consultant tells management about some hot new fad, which is instituted only to see no results. :lol:

 

Look at Joe Pa & Bowden. Staying at one place for too long is bad. Both sides get too comfortable and it takes away the drive to succeed.

I don't want any coach to stick around LSU for 30 years.

That's not just what they are hired for. They are hired to be the face of the program & everything that comes along with that - including fund raising, community events, disciplining players for off the field events, etc.

Coaches keep one eye on the next job because they are intelligent. They know that they can be fired at any moment due to a subpar season & they know someone else might be willing to pay them a lot more money for doing the same job. Why should they not keep an eye out for it?

A coach's commitment should be to himself & his family - to do the best that he can for them, and nothing more.

We pay Miles to be our coach, and if choses to leave so be it. Neither owes the other anything (other than the buy-out, of course). All we can do is offer him more money, or go out & hire a new coach.

 

In theory, you're correct. In practice (I have lots of practice...), people matter. And there's a big difference between only doing what "you are paid to do" and having buy in (loyalty) that entices a worker to display initiative, ingenuity, etc. In my book, lack of loyalty, in a very subtle way and in not so subtle ways, keeps people form putting the company's needs above their own. That's why communism and socialism, while theoretically interesting prospects, never work to the advantage of the majority, not even close.

Most consultants are simply disinterested historians who like to read, think, and write. Most couldn't execute anything and make it work if their life depended on it. Hence, their primary income source.

Aannnyway. My point remains - it's a market. When the coaches and teams all realize that the money should FOLLOW the performance, then maybe coaches will display more loyalty. For about 7 years. Then the pendulum scha-wings......

 

well this is getting into politics now haha but i don't believe it's the business cycle. i think it's more of a linear progress towards something. i think we can all agree, though, that the loyalty issue comes down to community in someway or another.

in the grand scheme of things there is no real community in business now because there's no real hometown anything anymore. everything's bought out and consolidated and blah blah blah.

this relates to miles and coaches because i think we all would like to have a sense of community -- especially in our jobs. if i believed school x offered me to be more part of a community than school y, i'd go with school x.

some people also have no sense of community because they can't go back home. that is why someone like miles could go either way and why someone like saban will never stay anywhere.

 

While true in many cases, I can and will say that McKinsey and Co are the most painful and excellent consultants I have ever worked with. If you can survive an engagement with them, you're gold.

 

Not going disagree with the changing of jobs. The companies that the people worked for, for so long found out that there jobs were going to be given away to other in foreign countries. There is no loyalty on both sides of the street. As for as football coaches, I'd say it was mostly the fans. People will pay anything to get a winning program. Look at what happen to LSU in basketball, bama in football. Win, don't worry about losing your integrity on the way.

 

Next year at LSU it will be hard to caoch . Les needs to go now , because next year this team will lose at leat 3 games maybe 4 .They will not get blown out just beat

 

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Are you sitting down? Good.

It's ALWAYS hard to coach at LSU.

It's ALWAYS possible to lose 3 or 4 close games when you play Florida, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Miss St, and a team to be named later. Yes I left off Ole Miss. Just to lighten the mood.

And a tip - back up your posts. Grow a pair and tell us WHICH games you think we "will not get blown out just beat".