I've posted this before....I get to all the LSU games early and sit in the stands to watch the team warm-up. I was totally disgusted with what I saw during the warm-ups for the Ole Miss game. Several of the LSU players were dancing to the stupid music being played over the PA system. Now that is another topic of discussion....but for now I will say I hope that the people at LSU puts an end to the stupid music they play on the PA system. That is what THE GOLDEN BAND FROM TIGERLAND is for. Anyway, looked at Ole Miss and they were total business preparing for the game. Our players not all but bunch were more interested in dancing to the music than putting their game face on. This just shows total lack of discipline and it all comes from the HC Miles. I don't like to talk about Saban but I have to because there is no way on this earth that he would allow his players to show that kind of display during warm-ups. Our players acted like they were about to take a stroll and guess what they got WALKED ON ALL OVER BY Ole Miss. I've been reading through the years some negative comments about Miles and have basically ignored it but something very scary has happened to our team and I don't like the direction we are going. Yeah Yeah YEah, Florida loss 4 games last year after a National CHampionship year but they didn't lose those games they way we lost them. And if you think about it, the games we won, I can think of Auburn, USC, and Troy, we should have lost. Yes our team over came adversity in those games but LSU should have never been in that position to begin with. I like Miles, he is a good person but he is beginning to scare me. I don't want to go backwards and it is slipping fast.:tigereye:
I Agree part of the problem is coaching, a big part of this years problems you are talking about in your post speak to player leadership......this year there is none....the past three years under Miles LSU had players that were true leaders, Hester, Flynn, Dorsey.......Friday was the first game I saw parts of a leader out there and that was at QB, JJ. I am hoping Les is able to right the LSU ship in the off season. LEADERSHIP ON THE FIELD IS THE KEY TO WINNING CHAMPINSHIPS.
On the field. Off the field. In the weight room. In practice. Leadership is the key difference between this TEAM and last year's TEAM, IMO.
This is telling. The entire staff is responsible for this attitude. A nice dose of humility is in order along with a large boot up their azzes. No Discipline and No Leadership.
I have ignored everything that was said about the discipline until I watched the Arkansas game. Alem should have been sent to the locker room (Singletary style) after he kicked the ball. Instead he played the rest of the game. And eventually the players are going to have to stop celebrating like they won a war after a big hit when the other team had a long gain. Absolutely ridiculous. Or embarrassing? Probably both.
You would tend to get blasted for talking positively about Ole Nick, however; you are right that Nick would never tolerate that kind of bs. It is so evident that there is something bad wrong with this team as far as attitude goes. It's like the team has not been happy with Miles sticking with JL for so long and not giving JJ a chance. These guys can see who can do what at practice and maybe believe that JJ is the man. We do have to remember that these coaches certainly want to win the games more than we do since it is their careers that are at stake. The lack of leadership certainly is missing but I wonder about whether this team respects CLM as much as they "like" him. Do they respect his judgement on game day and his decision making regarding who plays and who doesn't? Players getting away with bonehead penalties and mistakes certainly bring down the morale of the other players who continue to sit when a starter continues to play after screwing up badly. "Houston we have a problem".:huh:
I saw the Alabama game on TV and posted a comment (above) on how Bama's players, for the most part, limited their celebrating to the sidelines.I guess it got lost in the developing argument that was going on at the time. I guess this stupid celebrating is such a sore subject with me is because it glorifies the me first mentality. Do you know what typically is said by true heroes like firemen who risk their lives in saving someone from death by fire; like soldiers who save the lives of their "teammates" during firefights? To a man they say: " I was just doing my job- just like I was trained to do" I wish LSU players would just do their jobs in the first place. And when the job is done, quit acting like they were on a rap video!! They are representing their parents, the school, and all of us who provide the stage their acting on.
Please quit cheering for LSU. "Fans" like you are a disgrace to Tiger Nation. If you want a new coach/coaches, then fine: have a discussion on who is out there that we can get that is better than what we have. But to come on here and try and belittle the coaches we have is pathetic. The LSU football program this season as a football program is 100% better than you as a Tiger "fan." You are a disgrace. As for the penalties thing, are you blind? Fewest Penalties Per Game, 2008 (through 11/29/08) LSU (Les Miles) -- 6.33 Florida (Urban Meyer) -- 7.33 Oklahoma (Bob Stoops) -- 7.67 Southern Cal (Pete Carroll) -- 8.27 As for never seeing a coach be able to bounce back from a down year, are you blind? Saban, 2007: Bama was 6-2 before they fell apart, losing all four of their remaining regular season games, including losses to UL-Monroe and Miss St. Those are two teams that Bama had no business losing to. Saban lost control of his team, finishing the regular season 6-6. Saban 2002: Coming off a 2001 SEC Championship and a Sugar Bowl victory, the 2002 LSU team was 7-1 before they fell apart, losing 4 out of their last 6 games. That season, LSU got blown out by VT 8-26, blown out by Auburn 7-31, blown out by Bama 0-31, blown out by Texas 20-35, barely beat Arkansas 21-20, and it took the Blue Grass Miracle to beat Kentucky, 33-30. Stoops, 2005: Coming off a 12-1 season in 2004, the 2005 Oklahoma team started out the season ranked #7 in the preseason AP Poll. Oklahoma finished the regular season 7-4. They had no quality wins (the only teams they beat that had winning records were 8-4 Nebraska and 7-5 Kansas). They lost to a Mountain West team, TCU, 10-17, they got blown out by UCLA 24-41, they got blown out by Texas 12-45, and they lost to a Texas Tech team that finished #20 in the final poll. Stoops, 2006: Lost to a 7-6 Oregon team, lost to a WAC team (Boise State), lost 10-28 to a Texas team that finished at #13 in the final poll. Wins over teams that finished in the Top 25: NONE. Bear Bryant: 1964 10-1 (National Champions) 1965 9-1-1 (National Champions) 1966 11-0 (SEC Champions) 1967 8-2-1 - Lost Cotton Bowl 1968 8-3 - Lost Gator Bowl 1969 6-5 - Lost Liberty Bowl 1970 6-5-1 - tied Bluebonnet Bowl He didn't bounce back, did he? Yes he did: 1971 11-1 (SEC Champions) 1972 10-2 (SEC Champions) 1973 11-1 (National Champions) 1974 11-1 (SEC Champions) 1975 11-1 (SEC Champions) 1976 9-3 1977 11-1 (SEC Champions) 1978 11-1 (National Champions) 1979 12-0 (National Champions) 1980 10-2 1981 9-2-1 (SEC Champions) Bobby Bowden, West Virginia 1970 8-3 1971 7-4 1972 8-4 1973 6-5 1974 4-7 He didn't bounce back, did he? Yes he did: 1975 9-3 Bobby Bowden, Florida St 1977 10-2 1978 8-3 1979 11-1 1980 10-2 1981 6-5 1982 9-3 1983 8-4 1984 7-3-2 1985 9-3 1986 7-4-1 He didn't bounce back, did he? Yes he did: 1987 11-1 1988 11-1 1989 10-2 1990 10-2 1991 11-2 1992 11-1 (Conference Champions) 1993 12-1 (National Champions) 1994 10-1-1 (Conference Champions) 1995 10-2 (Conference Champions) 1996 11-1 (Conference Champions) 1997 11-1 (Conference Champions) 1998 11-2 (Conference Champions) 1999 12-0 (National Champions) 2000 11-2 (Conference Champions) Joe Paterno, Penn St 1980 10-2 1981 10-2 1982 11-1 (National Champions) 1983 8-4 1984 6-5 He didn't bounce back, did he? Yes he did: 1985 11-1 1986 12-0 (National Champions) 1987 8-4 1988 5-6 1989 8-3-1 Can he bounce back again? 1990 9-3 1991 11-2 1992 7-5 1993 10-2 1994 12-0 (undefeated season) 1995 9-3 1996 11-2 1997 9-3 1998 9-3 1999 10-3 2000 5-7 2001 5-6 2002 9-4 2003 3-9 2004 4-7 Can he bounce back now? 2005 11-1 2006 9-4 2007 9-4 2008 11-1 Darrell Royal, Texas 1961 10-1 (Conference Champions) 1962 9-1 (Conference Champions) 1963 11-0 (National Champions) 1964 10-1 1965 6-4 (no bowl game) 1966 7-4 1967 6-4 (no bowl game) He didn't bounce back, did he? Yes he did: 1968 9-1 (Conference Champions) 1969 11-0 (National Champions) 1970 10-1 (National Champions) Danny Ford, Clemson: 1981 12-0 (National Champions) 1982 9-1-1 (Conference Champions) 1983 9-1-1 1984 7-4 1985 6-6 He didn't bounce back, did he? Yes he did: 1986 8-2-2 (Conference Champions) 1987 10-2 (Conference Champions) 1988 10-2 (Conference Champions) 1989 10-2 Woody Hayes, Ohio State: 1954 10-0 (National Champions) 1955 7-2 (Big Ten Champions) 1956 6-3 1957 9-1 (National Champions) 1958 6-1-2 1959 3-5-1 He didn't bounce back, did he? Yes he did: 1960 7-2 1961 8-0-1 (National Champions) 1962 6-3 1963 5-3-1 1964 7-2 1965 7-2 1966 4-5 1967 6-3 He didn't bounce back again, did he? Yes he did: 1968 10-0 (National Champions) 1969 8-1 (Big Ten Champions) 1970 9-1 (National Champions) 1971 6-4 Can he bounce back this time? Yes he did: 1972 9-2 (Big Ten Champions) 1973 10-0 (Big Ten Champions) 1974 10-2 (Big Ten Champions) 1975 11-1 (Big Ten Champions) 1976 9-2 (Big Ten Champions) 1977 9-3 (Big Ten Champions) John McKay, Southern Cal: 1967 10-1 (National Champions) 1968 9-1-1 (Conference Champions) 1969 10-0-1 (Conference Champions) 1970 6-4-1 (no bowl game) 1971 6-4-1 (no bowl game) He didn't bounce back, did he? Yes he did: 1972 12-0 (National Champions) 1973 9-2-1 (Conference Champions) 1974 10-1-1 (National Champions) Bob Devaney, Nebraska: 1962 9-2 1963 10-1 (Big Eight Champions) 1964 9-2 (Big Eight Champions) 1965 10-1 (Big Eight Champions) 1966 9-2 (Big Eight Champions) 1967 6-4 1968 6-4 He didn't bounce back, did he? Yes he did: 1969 9-2 (Big Eight Champions) 1970 11-0-1 (National Champions) 1971 13-0 (National Champions) 1972 9-2-1 (Big Eight Champions)
