Why cherry pick 2 years out of 5? Miles averages 10 wins a year. Doubters are taking counsel of their fears instead of seeing a winning 2009 team that improved over 2008 and should be even better this year.
You used part of the Saban era to prove that Les Miles could make the team better than 8-9 wins per year.
I know Les coached us to three 10+ win seasons. My point was don't use accomplishments during the Saban era to pad Les Miles' resume.
I haven't read the whole thread, but I just want to see a high powered offense. That's all. The defense should be there. But I wanna see confidence in game management.
Funny, by my math, Saban's numbers are the ones that bring the average down. Never did get that "new" math anyway...but what you posted above is laughable. How does Saban's numbers pad Les Miles' resume? His numbers aren't as good! That's not saying Les>Nick, but if we're talking numbers, his cannot mathematically "pad" Les Miles' numbers. Just isn't possible. - Another funny thing. Earlier in the thread, you basically indicated that Saban's numbers weren't as good early in his career due to the program he inherited. I happen to think that's a reasonable argument. Only one problem. He had bad years in year 3, and then in year 5! I wouldn't dare hold year 1 against him. It was an improvement. But year 3 and year 5...that's on him. Or is it that, in your mind, it was OK for a Saban led team to only win 8 or 9 games, but not a Miles led team? After LSU won the SEC in his second year, they flopped in year 3. Then year 4 they won it all, then flopped again in year 5...by the standard that Coach Miles is held to. Hell, it only took Les 3 years to win it all.
I don't believe this to be true, but again, by the standards to which Coach Miles is held, this is correct.
The regular posters at TF know where I stand on this, so this is the last I'll say about the situation at the risk of sounding repetitive. It's entirely too early to be even thinking about replacing Miles as of now, but if LSU gets no more than 8-9 wins over mediocre teams, doesn't win at least half of its games against the top teams on its schedule, and no SECCG appearances happen for the next few years, the AD will have a choice to make. Does LSU continue to pay top dollar, suitable for an elite college coach, to maintain a program at second-tier conference status? Or do you roll the dice hoping to find the next big thing, knowing full well it could send your program into a tailspin? For those who look at the latter and think it's suicide, and point to Bama and Miami, you can just as easily point to post-Zook Florida. I'm not saying it's an easy choice, and hopefully it won't ever come down to that, but until I see evidence to the contrary I think this is the crossroads we're headed for. I really hope I'm wrong.
So forget Saban. Miles averages 10 wins a season in his career here, not 8.5. Here is the point you miss. I predict 10 LSU wins this year based on LSU's record, you predict 8 wins based on fears about Les.
