What was the deal with the onside kick?

Discussion in 'The Tiger's Den' started by SaintSlidell, Sep 5, 2010.

  1. LSU-SIU

    LSU-SIU Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,286
    Likes Received:
    52
    If the other team kicks it less then 10 yards the offense should be given an opportunity to field it on the spot and take possession right there.

    Whether this is the rule is another point, but that should be the rule.
     
  2. LSU-SIU

    LSU-SIU Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,286
    Likes Received:
    52
    Not only that but the receiver was a defenseless player under the rules in my eyes and you can't tackle blockers.
     
  3. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2003
    Messages:
    46,115
    Likes Received:
    9,705
    well we need someone to come forward with the rule that states that

    the ball can't be touched, we know that

    the receiving player, not so sure

    You may be right.
     
  4. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2003
    Messages:
    46,115
    Likes Received:
    9,705
    that happens ALL THE TIME in onside kicks

    that's the nature of an onside kick is that it's all out scrum for the ball
     
  5. LSU-SIU

    LSU-SIU Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,286
    Likes Received:
    52
    No they come in and hit, that guy tackled the guy before the ball was even there.

    You can't tackle guys that don't have the ball. It doesn't matter if you are on offense, defense or special teams. He tackled the guy before the ball got there.

    If the rules don't specify, they need to change the rules to allow the offense to be able to the recover the ball within 10 yards without interference. Problem solved.

    Either way it was a blown call. A defensive lineman can't tackle an offensive lineman that doesn't have the ball... same thing.

    This is a real good way of getting guys hurt, 10 yards needs to be 10 yards... and if the kicker can't get it 10 yards then the offense should be able to take advantage in my opinion.

    He was either a defenseless receiver or a blocker, either way the guy should not be able to tackle him. If not, all the rules need to be thrown out... everyone can just tackle everyone.
     
  6. lsu_mackey

    lsu_mackey Agent Purple

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2006
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    108
    My thing is that when LSU comes to block a punt and our guy goes up in the air in an obvious attempt for the block and happens to plow into the kicker, UNC gets a personal foul, 15 yard, automatic first down under the bull**** premise that the "NCAA doesn't want to promote injuries."

    However, when UNC onside kicks it to one of our players, he lines up to catch the ball, and is speared it is UNC ball without any consequences?

    Bull****. If you are going to protect punters how about you protect every player that steps on that field. That should have been a personal foul, 15 yards from spot of foul against UNC. Alfred Blue never even touched the damn ball or had a chance to make contact with the ball.

    Blown call.

    In my eyes, UNC has no room to complain about the supposed "pass interference" on the last play as the calls cancel each other out.

    Game over. W for LSU. Move on.
     
  7. LSU-SIU

    LSU-SIU Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,286
    Likes Received:
    52
    He is a defenseless player I agree with you, now if the ball goes 10 yards you have time to have blockers and such. The rules actually say a kick receiver is viewing the ball coming down field can be a defenseless player.

    I fail to see the difference either.
     
    1 person likes this.
  8. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2003
    Messages:
    1,320
    Likes Received:
    84
    late entry here....I think as long as the ball is on the ground the player is fair game that is fielding the ball. You can blast him into the stands if you can do it. Think of it like a fumble recovery attempt....nobody says, "hey, no fair you hit my player while he was trying to pick the ball up!"

    It's a free for all as long as the ball is on the ground.
     
  9. COTiger

    COTiger 2010 Bowl Pick 'Em Champ

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2003
    Messages:
    16,784
    Likes Received:
    6,431
    No question he's fair game if the ball has traveled 10 yards. What I haven't seen a definitive answer to is he fair game if he crosses into the 10 yard zone. The kicking team obviously can't touch the ball. Can they touch the player?
     
  10. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2003
    Messages:
    1,320
    Likes Received:
    84
    Yes, as long as the ball is on the ground I think they can smash into him with a running start and try to dislodge the ball while he is trying to pick it up.

    They did that last night in front of the SEC refs, replay official, Herbie, God and everyone else.

    So I assume that it's legal.....?
     

Share This Page