What was the deal with the onside kick?

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  1. SaintSlidell

    SaintSlidell How bout them Tigers! Who Dat

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    If one of our guys crosses over the 10 yard line that the ball must travel, is it then a free for all?
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Once he touches the ball, it is free. I'm not sure why the UNC player wasn't flagged for tackling a player without the ball, because our man would have had it otherwise. But it was a sloppy tackle and I suppose the ref could view it as legitimate blocking.
     
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  3. Chase4LSU

    Chase4LSU Waiting on Mettenberger

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    I watched the replay on ESPN after the game, and that's what the ref did. However, looking at it again and then getting on ESPN.com and viewing it yet again, I think they made a bad call. However, if we hadn't made as many turnovers and penalties, it wouldn't have mattered much.
     
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  4. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    I don't know what the exact ruling is, but I do know that if that ball goes beyond 10 yards, you blow away anyone from getting that ball and recover it for yourselves. You see teams trying to do that all the time.

    My guess is the same holds true even if it's less than 10 yards. It was up to the LSU player to let it go 10 yards. He didn't and the NC player tried to blow him back from getting the ball.

    As bad as that call seems, I think it actually might be the right call.

    Maybe someone can clarify the rule.
     
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  5. LSU-SIU

    LSU-SIU Founding Member

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    Well if it wasn't a bad call to me it can exploited to death. IMHO

    Kickers have been trying to make it bounce, now it will be kickers kicking it 40 feet up in the air to come down around 9 yards a way.

    I think he could have waived for the no return catch and if the guy hit him either before after the ball hit him. I don't know. It was strange and opens up possibilities to make kickoffs a nightmare.
     
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  6. COTiger

    COTiger 2010 Bowl Pick 'Em Champ

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    Didn't they review it and determine it was the correct call?
     
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  7. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    yes
     
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  8. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    you can only do that if the ball was kicked in the air

    that's why you never see the ball kicked up into the air on onside kicks, it's always bounced into the ground
     
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  9. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    yeah they reviewed it.

    i don't know the rule, but i was under the impression that you couldn't drill a guy in the process of making a catch before he even touches the ball.

    however, izzy brings up a good point.
    you see this all the time. kicking team goes down and cleans out a group of guys to give someone a shot at recovery.

    would love to see how that rule is written just for my own curiosity.
     
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  10. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    I was on the phone with my dad, who was a football coach for 40 years, and he wasn't even sure whether it was the right call or not.

    On the one hand, the ball has to travel 10 yards, which it didn't. However, did our player crossing over the line negate the 10 yard rule? We figured it did.

    The whole thing was pretty weird. But it should've never come to that.

    And one other thing, normally your "good hands" team is on that front line to receive an onside kick. Who, exactly, was the guy that muffed it?
     
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