What to do now?

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LaSalleAve, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2008
    Messages:
    44,037
    Likes Received:
    18,027
  2. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    6,532
    Likes Received:
    1,806
    sounds like it, LaSalle. From this article it sounds to me like Khamanei is trying to lure either us, Israel or both into a war. Personally, after a decade of war I wish there were a peaceful way to resolve it. That said, the rhetoric would indicate that some kind of action might be imminent.
     
  3. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2008
    Messages:
    44,037
    Likes Received:
    18,027
    Do we have to go to war to get this bastard?
     
  4. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2011
    Messages:
    6,532
    Likes Received:
    1,806
    Good question and I don't know the correct answer to it. Both Khamanei and Ahmadinejad are problems but would killing just these two suffice? I would think that most of the government officials are probably loyalists to these two guys so I don't know. That said, for some time there has been a fairly large portion of the Iranian people who would like to see regime change there.
     
  5. Tiger in TX

    Tiger in TX Quack

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2011
    Messages:
    868
    Likes Received:
    126
    It will be interesting to see what Isreal does in response to this. Technically, the statements were not an "act of war", but how many times do you allow another country to threaten you verbally with such bold statements before you pull the proverbial trigger?
     
  6. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2011
    Messages:
    13,358
    Likes Received:
    10,176
    AMERICAN LAW AND POLICY ON ASSASSINATIONS OF FOREIGN LEADERS: THE PRACTICALITY OF MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO

    ....No standing Federal law criminalizes the assassination of a foreign official outside the boundaries of the United States. In the ab[*PG2]sence of such a statute, only Executive Order 12333 prohibits the act of state-sponsored killing.2 This Order, which was drafted in the mid-1970s in the wake of revelations of government involvement in plots to kill several foreign leaders, has been maintained by every administration since President Ford....

    .... The international legal prohibitions against assassination also do not present a significant obstacle to the use of assassination by the U.S. Government. International customary and treaty law does not prohibit the sort of open attacks generally employed by the United States when it strikes directly at foreign leaders....
    -------------

    Khamenei,.. relax and keep stirring the pot, ask Bin Laden, you have nothing to worry about,
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    Iran is a country on the verge of implosion and revolution. We need to keep driving them apart, not driving them together, which is why the dictators wants the US to attack them. The very nationalist Iranians would band together against the invaders. As it is, they have a ton of economic, social, and political problems, none of which is cured by nuclear weapons.

    Iran is no threat to the United States at all. They are little threat to Israel for all their crying. They would lose a war with Israel or the United States. Hell they lost a war with Iraq and haven't actually won a war in 2,400 years. They are an ancient and very proud culture but a laughing stock as a military power.

    The only nation that can prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons is Iran. There is no way that the US is going to engage in another elective Middle East war with an uncertain outcome. It plays into their hands . . . another knife fight on their turf and on their terms.

    If they try to close the straits of Hormuz, we will take action to destroy their naval and airpower assets that threaten the international shipping lanes. But we are unlikely to go further than that.

    Rather we should be funding their discontented political elements, enabling dissident Iranian insurrection, exposing government coverups, and other covert action to foment unrest and revolution from within. The next Iranian government is likely to have a very different policy as long as we have no become their ultimate bogeyman by rash and poorly thought out military action that brings them together.
     
    1 person likes this.
  8. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2008
    Messages:
    44,037
    Likes Received:
    18,027

    Good post man, but how do you accomplish that when the Iranians who want change are systematically eliminated?
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    They become martyrs to their cause. Unrest in Iran is serious and widespread.
     
  10. Atreus21

    Atreus21 Founding Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,660
    Likes Received:
    522
    Link?
     

Share This Page