What has been confirmed this season.

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  1. Tom Callender

    Tom Callender Founding Member

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    Well the head coach is the man in charge & the man in charge of what I saw out there today is not a good coach & I am worried about it. This whole season has been getting worse each week. The Defense is just plan bad. Offense- If one quarterback can't make the plays & the other quarterback don't know the plays then next year we may be starting out with a freshman at the helm again.
     
  2. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    And this is directly the coaches' fault?
     
  3. okatoma

    okatoma Founding Member

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    I really, really, really hope that Coach O is not on the list of potential defensive coordinators. He may be a great recruiter but the dude doesn't seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed. Did any of you actually watch him patrolling the sidelines at Ole Miss? I can't believe his name is being mentioned.

    Besides, we need a known commodity... a coordinator who has a proven track record. O has never even been a coordinator.

    Just say no.
     
  4. mcstraycat

    mcstraycat Founding Member

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    I'll tell you what was confirmed.
    We don't have an "effin" leader anywhere on this team.

    Lee never took command. He seemed to live in a state of low level panic which crescendoed into pick sixes and passes into the freakin' stands.

    Every team needs a leader and there were times this team just quit playing for Lee. He lost this team's respect if he ever had it at all. I believe the boy has stage fright. If he was a band he'd never be able to tour.

    Jefferson tried to take control of the helm. He seemed to initially take control of the huddles. He made some good plays and it did spark the team. But he is what he is...... young. Not quite ready for prime time but a bright future ahead. But did you see any of the seniors stepping up to help him out? Hell no.

    It was also confirmed, at least to me, that Miles totally abdicated his leadership role. Rarely saw him display any form of emotion. Football is a head game as much as a physical one. He should have eaten somebody's lunch over those stupid, self defeating penalties today. He should have had somebody's face mask in his hands flinging spittle into their face.

    We have talent. This year was a complete failure of leadership, on the field and on the sidelines.

    JMO
     
  5. Herb

    Herb Founding Member

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    I don't think the defensive line play of the Saints could get much worse than it has been under Orgeron...does anyone really want to see him at LSU?
     
  6. CParso

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    I agree, except to point out that the role of team leader falls on the shoulders of the QB by default. No other player can ever have as much of an impact as the QB - regardless of their leadership abilities and/or seniority.

    Personally, I like that Miles doesn't get enjoyment out of humiliating his players in public like Saban did. Miles will take care of it behind closed doors, the way it should be.
     
  7. Tom Callender

    Tom Callender Founding Member

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    Coaches fault? Guess I am not sure how to answer that, weather its the coaches fault or not they are the ones who ultimately reap the rewards & are responsible for the failures. I remember the pictures of Miles holding the national championship trophy & I will also remember this season being unsucessful by LSU standards & Miles being the head coach...
     
  8. Ch0sn0ne

    Ch0sn0ne At the Track

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    Keiland Williams, Brett Helms, Herman Johnson, Richard Murphy, Tyson Jackson, RJF, Beckwith, Curtis Taylor.

    Do you think any of these players have lived up to expectations? Not saying they aren't decent, but really they were on the path to being much better.

    I seriusly doubt all of them just were not as good as they were supoosed to be. The more logical answer is coaching.

    I agree but he got no help from his coaches or receivers. The play calling was horrible. The only time we threw after that first drive was when we absolutely had too.

    I agree, but even that could have been prevented had Miles made better personel decisions earlier in the season.

    It won't be me doing the firing. That's just how the CFB world is now.

    Completely agree.
     
  9. Ch0sn0ne

    Ch0sn0ne At the Track

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    Don't take this as a shot at you, but have you ever played organized sports in your life? It's just not like that at all.

    The reason I ask is because unless a guy is a complete puss, he doesn't take being jumped on by a coach as humiliation. He takes it as motivation to do better. Most guys love being a part of a team and do not want to let their teammates down. Most of the time, being called out is great for the player and the team that errs. It is motivation not humiliation.

    I got chewed out, cursed at hit on the helmet with the clip board and the whistle, drug around a field by my facemask, and spit on. All that and not one time did the thought that coach humiliated me ever cross my mind. I did however feel horrible about letting my team down and made efforts to do better.

    And just for the record, I wasn't very good so I got chewed out a lot. :hihi:
     
  10. CParso

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    Curtis Taylor and Keiland Williams should have never had many expectations. Neither one were complete players coming into the year. RJF, along with the entire DL, struggled. I place the blame on coaching. Beckwith has underperformed, but I'm not sure how much of this is related to injury. Murphy can't succeed without open space - our offense wasn't fit for him this year. Our OL has struggled this year as well, but I wouldn't place any individual blame on Helms or Johnson. I think both of these guys will go about as high in the draft as they could.

    True, but Jefferson didn't exactly inspire confidence was he was asked to throw...

    As I said, Jefferson wasn't ready before. What other personel decisions?
     

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