What do you think about a 2 QB system?

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  1. arizonafan

    arizonafan Veteran Member

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    Totally agree. Even if JL is getting a good bit of reps in practice, I don't think his confidence will be really restored until he gets a few series against guys in different color uniforms and we may just need him in the run through the SEC. When RP was dismissed it really messed up the planned assembly line of QB's much like I think Sanchez leaving USC for the NFL did to them. That's probably why Carrol threw such an uncharacteristic hissey at the press conference. He could already see what was waiting for them.
     
  2. downtown

    downtown Founding Member

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    I mentioned Julio Jones to show that a talented freshman can have a big impact on a team. Jones and RS are two different players, but both are freakishly talented. You're talking about me being delusional (which I slightly am, but that's beside the point) and you're talking about how you couldn't help but notice how good Lee has looked when he's been in there for a total of three plays including a one-yard pass??? I think a guy with two nubs and a wooden leg could have come in and thrown that pass and it wouldn't have really been noticeable.

    After this season, our two top RBs are gone (Murphy will be rehabbing) and our star WR & TE will be gone. You want to play RS because we obviously need a little offensive punch THIS YEAR and you would like to have an experienced playmaker going into next year. Tolliver may be a playmaker from the looks of it, but you want more than one offensive threat no matter where that person is on the field.

    You basically said that players who switch positions never pan out or they're one in a million. That's off too. I agree that it's ideal to have a person stay in one spot to build up his knowledge of that position, but that doesn't always happen. Different teams have different needs and you have to try to get your most talented players on the field if they can help you in any way. Here are some players just from LSU that jumped around who are currently in the NFL:

    Josh Reed, RB turned WR - Biletnikoff Award Winner...still holds many SEC records

    Devery Henderson, RB turned WR - See Bluegrass Miracle, single-season WR TD Record-LSU

    Corey Webster, WR turned CB - Two-time first-team All-American
     
  3. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Skyler Green was a quarterback, Lyle Hitt was a DLineman. Joseph Barksdale was a D lineman coming out of high school. Joe Addai was a quarterback in high school. From what i understand Vince Young and Pat White declined LSU because Saban wanted to change their position, i dont know how true that is, but it sounds legit.
     
  4. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    Skyler and Addai probably had to play QB because they were the only options in HS like Randle last year, and Reed next year. They were never recruited to come in as QBs

    You are right on the others and Pat White thought Saban was a liar.

    From Daphne High School to Dolphins, Pat White proves the doubters wrong | Sports from the Press-Register - al.com - al.com
     
  5. asignupe99

    asignupe99 Founding Member

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    Well, dang. Amazing how fans perspective differ. I, along with many other fans, don't think Trindon should step foot on the field outside of special teams situations. He has horrible vision and his size keeps him from breaking tackles. Trindon is superfast, but the speed difference between him and say Shep or even Keiland is not so much that it puts anymore pressure on opposing defenses. I'd rather see Shep get ALL of Trindon's non-special teams touches.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I know, but this is the SEC and now is the time take control if Jefferson has the stuff.

    We need more cowbell.
     
  7. downtown

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    Good stuff! We need more cowbell every Saturday except for this one coming up.
     
  8. BostonBengal

    BostonBengal Founding Member

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    2 QB systems rarely work. Sure, I know Florida is a prime example of a 2-QB system that did work and work to perfection (with Tebow and Leak), but the saying, "If you've got 2 QB's, you don't have one" holds merit.

    When asked about rotating Vick in and out of the game at QB with him, McNabb said it best: It's hard to develope consistancy and find a rhythm if you're constantly changing the pieces."

    Now, college football is a little different as yes, multiple looks concerning the QB are commonplace. From true rotating QB's to the new-aged "Wildcat" look.

    Look, I'm one that thinks is great and a wonderful "feel-good" story that all of J.Lee's passes have been completed (to players with the same uniform) and his one play last week was a TD pass. But to say you can honestly draw the conclusion that you're impressed with is play is kinda shallow. He's thrown 2 passes, both single-read plays, both to Charles Scott.

    Our QB's are ALL so young that you need to give 1 the keys and let him develope. I don't want to see the coaches let a young QB run his head against a wall over and over and over (i.e. if JJ's the QB and he starts stringing INT after INT) then we need to get him out before we are in another situation like last season.

    So it's my opinion that if you split the developement of your QB's, then you're not really developing any of them. As an offense you ultimately want one QB to be "the guy". You don't mind a package/plays here or there from another one should they be effective, but you want to stick with one.
     
  9. lsu_mackey

    lsu_mackey Agent Purple

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    I think what would work is you place JL as the QB with RS at the side (is this called slot-back?). The defense shifts to compensate for RS in case of a run and you have JL air it out to Randle or Lafell or Tolliver.

    If they don't shift you have RS take the direct snap.
     
  10. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    i totally agree, fast on a track does not equal fast on the field fully padded with a ball in your hands. If Trindon wanted to be more effective he should watch footage of Darren Sproles. That little guy runs full speed every play. Might not anymore after Ray Lewis murdered him :)lol:) this past weekend on that 4th down play. But Trindon tries to be too shifty instead of running full speed. I wouldn't put him in the backfield if Scott, Williams, Ridley, and Ford all got injured. I really wouldn't want him in special teams situations either because he cannot field a punt with any regularity. If i had to put him on the field, it would be in the slot taking the ball off of a reverse so he could muster up some speed.
     

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