What about Ukraine and Russia?

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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Trump post here? Did I miss it? If not, why do you guys keep bringing up Trump?
     
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    He said Putin will never break the Iranian people……
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  3. LSUpride123

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    I mean, its probably true.
     
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    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    I'm not sure anyone can. They are headstrong and stuck in ~9th century.

    We should just eliminate them now and do the world a favor
     
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    i cant speak for that fella but it appears pretty clear he on the side of the USA. you are asking the question as a way to insult him and make him defensive. you want him to answer, not because you want an answer, but because you want to make him be defensive on this topic. he appears to be resisting.

    should we, for example, prtect ukrainian airpspace like adam kinziger suggests? what should we do? send troops? i say no. do you think the hesitance to get the US in a war is motivated purely by love and admiration for putin?

    now, will you say definitively that you are opposed to the klan? why are you denying it? have you been credibly accused? why else would you need to deny it?
     
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    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Clearly he does. He equates not wanting to get the US involved in something it has absolutely no business being involved in as love for putin. What kind of dumbass thinks that way
     
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  9. LSUpride123

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    You aren't supporting freedom though. Ukraine is just a puppet state. Its just a battle of whos puppet are they going to be.

    People like you get hung up on the morality of things and ignore human nature. There is more to learn about human nature here than what YOU think is morally just and right. There are a few billion people in China who have different morals than you. Why are yours better? Now, we can mostly agree here the American way is better, but just because we agree does not mean we have authority over them.

    Authority comes from power. Power can take many forms. Money, armies, populations workforce, natural resources, nukes, etc. All of these things add to a nations power.

    For example, Both China and Russia have nukes. China and Russia are dirty commies, yet, they go about spreading power across the globe in far different ways.

    Life is no better in China than Russia and China's policies have uncountably killed more humans than Putin could ever dream of. However, we are not arming a defense force against China like we do Russia. Why? well, goes back to the sources of power. China is using other means to subjugate America's might. They are using our biggest weakness against us. Arrogance and greed.

    In any-case, the world is already mostly free. I know quite a few Russians who now live in USA. They were free to leave Russia. It is not like North Korea. People stay and fight for Russia because of a human complex. The same complex that has you all riled up over "freedom".

    Global freedom is NOT under attack.

    I would also suggest that the world is turning more socialist than anything. People are freely giving up "freedom" for ease of life.

    Attack suggest there are forces trying to take freedoms by force when the reality is, people are giving it up by choice. Sure there are one off instances here and there, but for the most part, people are willing to have less "freedom" for disillusion of more peace and day-to-day security.

    If Russia takes the whole of Ukraine, it will not be a 2nd North Korea.
     
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