We are losing our nation to lies about the necessity of war

The Russians and the Chinese also are the victims of jihad too, and like all non-Muslims countries they are targets too. Nevertheless, the Russians may squawk a little at first, but in the end they will shy away from confronting us unless they want what’s left of their aging and rusted military obliterated. Not to mention that they can’t project power outside Russia in any event.

Although the Chinese are expanding their military rapidly, there is still no way they can project power to the Middle East the way only we can and if they did they would just get obliterated as well. Hence, they would not risk it. While they might not trust us, there wouldn't be much interference by either country.

Not to mention that while I advocate relieving the Dar al Islam of its oil assets if it refuses to cease and desist funding the Global jihad, I would make it clear that any oil assets confiscated would be setup in a trust and administered for the good of all the free nations of the world.

I don’t think we would have to obliterate all the Islamic regimes. I think once you take out the ruling Mullahs of Iran and the House of Saud, the rest of the Dar al Islam would pull a Qaddafi lest they lose their kingdoms and their oil reserves.

Anyway, what’s your alternative? I mean if nothing is done and the status quo continues like it is today, many parts of Western Europe will become Islamic by the middle of this century, with the rest of Europe soon to follow before the end of the century. Russia too will become Islamic by the middle of this century, Israel will then soon be subsumed as well, Africa will be subsumed, and India will face a much greater assault. If we continue to do what we are doing, they win and we will lose.

With all due respect, the House of Saud is the lynch pin of the Global Jihad as no other regime comes close to spending nearly as much of their oil wealth on the pursuit of the Global Jihad than Saudi Arabia. Eventually we are going to have to elect a President who puts American patriotism above kissing the ass of the Saudis, and I’m sorry to say but Carter, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and now Obama were all owned lock, stock, and barrel by the Saudis.

No one, not even OBL, is more responsible for 9/11 than the House of Saud, and if the USA had taken out the House of Saud in response to 9/11, instead of occupying a backwater for 9 years like Afghanistan that represents virtually no threat to a superpower like the USA, it would have sent a very clear and loud message that would have reverberated throughout the Dar al Islam.

With respect to who takes over after the House of Saud is obliterated, I could care less as long as they understand that if they try to resume where the House of Saud left off that they too would be obliterated just like their predecessors before. Nevertheless, we should also confiscate their oil assets to pay for the cost of our wars and also because they were using the profits derived thereof for funding global jihad

 

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What are we still doing in Afghanistan? Initially we occupied it to remake the Afghanis in our image, since according to the left, poverty and despair are the root causes of terrorism and not Islam, because according to them Islam is a Religion of Peace™. Anyway, nine years and hundreds of billions of dollars later how many Afghanis have we successfully made into our image?

And then when we ask what we are still doing over there, we are told we are preventing Afghanistan from turning into a terrorist haven. Yet, not one of the 9/11 terrorists came from Afghanistan and on top of it Afghanistan is so primitive that they have to use pack animals to plow their land. They are so primitive that they are basically still living in the seventh century. Therefore, how can such a backwards ass country represent such a grave and perilous threat to the world’s lone superpower?

I mean what is more important to our national security, continuing to waste hundreds of billions of dollars in pursuit of a fantasy based nation-building mission in Afghanistan which doesn’t have a chance at success because it is all based on false and idiotic assumptions, or doing what it takes to stop the ruling Mullahs of Iran from getting nuclear weapons at all cost? The Obama administration apparently believes continuing to pursue a loss cause in Afghanistan is more important than stopping the ruling Mullahs from becoming nuclear armed. Could he be any more bunkers?

 

CIA reported last week there were only about 100 al qaeda in Afghanistan. How many lives and how much money is worth getting them?

Our military has no stated goal in this "war", the only reason we still are over there is for a political "victory" of some kind.

Our politicians should be ashamed.

 

how many were there before the taliban was overthrown?

 

Not sure as I didn't see that number. But I did find it interesting that the Taliban was once called the Mujahideen whom we use to be an ally with to fight the Soviets in the 80s along with bin Laden.

 

yes, just like at one time saddam hussain was considered an ally against iran. things change.

but my point is, if the numbers of al qaeda were a hell of a lot greater under the taliban (and i suspect they were given the taliban was their chief protector and gave them safe haven), it is in our best interest to make sure that we stay long enough to help the afghans fight the taliban and for their govt to get a strong hold before leaving. otherwise, if the taliban regroups and overthrows the govt (again) it is all for naught and the terrorists camps will operate with impunity. (again.)

it is not just al qaeda we are figting in afghanistan, it is those that want to overthow the afghan govt and support the same terrorists that want to come after us. giving those terrorists free reign to regroup, train, and get stronger is not in our best interests.

 

All they are doing is moving around. Now into Pakistan after that Yemen after that Somalia.

There is no benefit to us by chasing them around.

Iraq/Afghan hell any of the middle east countries will never have a stable government like the Western way. It's a pipe dream.

 

I agree, heck they are probably in Iran also!

 

It keeps them on their toes as silly as that sounds. If they get time to train, recruit and regroup, they will attack us and other free nations again. They hate the West like no other. Its born in them.

I don't look for us to make stable governments, I want to make sure we keep killing terrorist every day. In time, things will change, but majority of Americans are not willing to put up with what is actually needed to win over there.

YES, we can win...........