We are losing our nation to lies about the necessity of war

Then you should obviously know that Daddy isn't always right. Mama is.

 

The only reason the self-hating left and Ron Paul kooks always make it a point to mention that we once aided the Mujahideen that were fighting the Soviets is because they believe America’s imperialist and interventionist foreign policy is the root cause of Islamic terrorist attacks. In other words, according to them 9/11 is a prime example of blowback stemming from our imperialist and interventionist foreign policy through the decades. To them it was America’s chickens coming home to roost, as Obama’s favorite preacher loves to claim, because they have been conditioned to always blame America first.

Nevertheless, if we aided the Mujahideen it seems as if they would be eager to aid us in order to pay us back. However, according to the self-hating left and the Ron Paul kooks, it’s our entire fault because we somehow created the monsters that attacked us: the Taliban and also Saddam, which are both products of our imperialist and interventionist foreign policy.

They also swallow without reservation all the taqiyya and propaganda OBL spewed to justify the 9/11 terrorist attack because it fits their narrative that America’s foreign policy is imperialist and interventionist. Nevertheless, all taqiyya and propaganda aside, OBL and AQ didn’t attack us on 9/11 because of our foreign policy, they attacked us because making Islam supreme throughout the world is the highest mandate of Islam. All the other reasons cited are an example of how capable OBL and AQ are at exploiting the ignorance’s and biases of the self-hating left and the Ron Paul kooks.

Anyway, if you have any doubts, read the “Al Qaida Reader” written by Raymond Ibrahim, where Mr. Ibrahim translates the writings of OBL and AQ written in Arabic and intended for Arabic audiences only, and then compares it with the taqiyya and propaganda intended for Western audiences used by OBL and AQ to justify their attacks against the West that obviously was also meant to deceive. It will become very apparent to you that OBL and AQ at the same time they are very skillful at exploiting the ignorance’s and biases of the West, are also doing what they are doing in reality only to fulfill their holy obligation to make Islam supreme throughout the world. In other words, none of the justifications OBL cited to the West as the causes for the 9/11 terrorist attacks have anything whatsoever to do with the real motivation behind their attacks, which again is the fulfillment of the Muslims holy obligation to make Islam supreme throughout the world.

 

Uhm…the Taliban never was the protectors of OBL and AQ. The only reason they granted sanctuary to OBL and AQ was because they were being paid and because OBL and AQ offered to assist them in the Taliban’s jihad against the Northern Alliance.

In fact, beforehand the Taliban wasn’t even aware that OBL and AQ were contemplating the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Then when Mullah Omar confronted OBL personally after the attacks, OBL lied about it to his face, which is why Mullah Omar refused to cave in to US demands. To his chagrin, he later found out that OBL had lied and that AQ were really behind the attacks, but not until after it was too late.

In any event, Bush should have limited our response to 9/11 to the elimination of OBL and AQ only in retaliation for 9/11, as the Pentagon had advised, in order to send a very loud and clear message to all would be terrorists contemplating attacking the US. However, like a leftwing loon Bush decided to attempt to remake the Islamic world into our image by bringing democracy to the Islamic world because he believed like an idiot that poverty and despair was the root cause of terrorism and not Islam.

Thus, Bush like a fool jumped into the middle of a jihad he had no business jumping into the middle of by siding with the Sharia compliant Northern Alliance against the Sharia compliant Taliban, and, of course, because we became sidetracked with remaking the Islamic world into our image, OBL and AQ were able to slip through the cracks and escape. Hence, here we are nine years later, not only has not one Muslim been remade into our image, but also OBL and AQ are still thorns in our side.

In other words, Bush’s and now Obama’s fantasy based nation building missions have been complete and utter failures because they are based on stupid and idiotic assumptions. For one thing, Islam is not a so-called Religion of Peace™ as besides being a religion it is also a very radical form of totalitarianism that seeks world domination. Moreover, it is impossible to win the hearts and minds of Muslims who are obligated to hate our kafir infidel guts, per their religion, no matter what.

Not to mention that our illustrious incompetent State Department, under the tutelage of a Muslim infiltrator, Zalmay Khalilzad, who served as the American ambassadors to both Afghanistan and Iraq during the times that both respective constitutions were being written and adopted, made sure that Sharia was enshrined in both constitutions. Hence, in essence we created two Sharia states that will inevitably become our enemies and which means, by the way, that our missions in both Afghanistan and Iraq are both exceedingly counterproductive.

I mean in Afghanistan today, for instance, we are more or less propping up a corrupt Sharia state that is prosecuting Muslim apostates for converting to Christianity even while we prop it up, and never mind the fact that as soon as we leave, that Sharia state will instantly rejoin the global jihad against us and become our mortal enemy.

Anyway, Afghanistan in essence is a feudal state as there are no roads and electricity throughout most of the country. Pack animals have to be used to plow the fields and the vast overwhelming majorities of the people are illiterate and unskilled and live very primitive existences. Thus, could someone please explain to me how such a poor and primitive backwater like Afghanistan, which is one of the poorest countries in the world, can represent such a grave and perilous threat to the world’s lone superpower? Not to mention that there were no Afghanis among the 9/11 terrorists that participated in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Hence, why does winning our fantasy based mission in Afghanistan, which is morally bankrupt and utterly counterproductive to begin with, take precedence over stopping the Iranian Mullahs from acquiring nuclear weapons in our politicians minds? It's political correctness run amok!

 

It's called the 9/11 commissions and reports put out by our own CIA. Not from "kooks". Oh wait you must be in the SF camp and don't believe those people either.

Who's the kook now.

 

There is an easy common sense solution to prevent any further Islamic terrorist attacks inside our country and it doesn’t take Patriot Acts or doubling the size of the federal government and federal spending like Bush did to do so, all you have to do is ban and reverse Muslim immigration. Why ban and reverse Muslim immigration? Because Islam besides being a religion is also a very radical form of totalitarianism that seeks world domination just like Communism before.

In the Cold War era we didn’t allow millions of Communists to immigrate and infiltrate our countries because that would have been suicidal. Yet, that is exactly what we are doing today, we are allowing millions of Muslims to immigrate and infiltrate our countries and to live as 5th columns ready to perpetrate Islamic terrorist attacks at a moments notice.

I mean take look inside every Muslim country in the world today, without exception non-Muslim dhimmis and Muslim women are systematically persecuted and violently oppressed in every Muslim country in the world, and the reason is because Islam is a radical form of totalitarianism that seeks world domination.

 

The 9/11 commission was a joke. Bush didn’t need to appoint a commission; he needed to fire the incompetent loons that were responsible for the biggest intelligence failure in history and replace them with people not blinded by political correct multiculturalism.

However, because Bush was also a liberal loon blinded by political correct multiculturalism, he appointed a commission and then stacked it with liberal loons and RINOs just like him, which further ensured political correct findings and bigger government solutions.

Anyway, you can cite the 9/11 commissions findings all you want, but like I said, read Raymond Ibrahim’s book, The Al Qaeda Reader, where he translated the writings of OBL, Zawahiri, and other Muslims written in Arabic and meant for Arabic eyes only, and you will find out the reason’s OBL and AQ cited to the West to justify the 9/11 attacks were all bogus and are in fact little more than carefully crafted taqiyya and propaganda to deceive weak minded kafir infidels.

For instance, one of the reasons that OBL and AQ cited for 9/11 was the USA refused to sign the Kyoto Protocols. However, that is obviously pure taqiyya and if you believe otherwise then you are too naïve and gullible for your own good.

Anyway, if you read Raymond Ibrahim’s book, The Al Qaeda Reader, you will find out that the only reason behind OBL’s terrorist attacks and in fact all other Islamic terrorist attacks throughout the world is the holy obligation to make Islam supreme via jihad. All other reasons cited is taqiyya meant to deceive gullible kafir infidels.

 

Virtually all of the CIA’s reports are written by leftwing loons are by Paleo Conservatives just as blinded by political correct multiculturalism as the leftwing loons, and anyone who tries bring up Islamic law is branded an Islamophobe and Jewish sympathizer and run out the government. The fact of the matter is our government is totally and completely incompetent, which is why we are still spending billions of dollars in a backwater like Afghanistan instead of concentrating on stopping the Iranians from acquiring nukes.

 

Never knew that this is what was in control of our world:

I guess like the yodel of the Common Loon, some of the posts in this thread are just down right eerie.

 

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Uhm…I hate to rain on your naive parade, but Muslims hate all non-Muslims equally, as Canadians have been the victims of Islamic terrorist attacks as much as we Americans. Now the Japanese haven’t suffered nearly as many problems because they have been far more restrictive in their immigration regulations. However, if they liberalize their immigration regulations too, they will suffer the same consequences the rest of us have.

In addition, despite your self-hatred and blame America first attitude, Muslims hate us because they hate all non-Muslims and they are obligated to convert us, subjugate us, or otherwise kill us. Hence, the blame America first reasons you cited are all bogus to say the least and have nothing whatsoever to do with why they hate us.

Israel is by far not the only kafir infidel state that is facing a permanent jihad. In fact, every non-Muslim country that borders an Islamic state is also facing a permanent jihad on its borders. Of course, they want the Israelis out. After all, they are not Muslims; they are Jews. However, they also want the Hindus out of Kashmir, Jammu, and India, the Buddhists out of Thailand, and the Christians out of the Philippines, Indonesia, Nigeria, and way too many other places to name. The fact of the matter is the Dar al Islam is pursuing a hot and cold global jihad that takes place mainly through stealth and deception. Hence, if we abandon Israel, we may as well abandon ourselves because Israel’s jihad is our jihad.

Anyway, since you are so suspicious, please explain some of your paranoid reasons for believing that Israel somehow benefited in any way from the 9/11 terrorist attacks? That should be pretty entertaining to say the least.

What are you are, a Muslim?

Unless something drastic happens, most of Europe and all of Russia will become Islamic by the middle of this century, with the rest of Europe soon to follow before the end of this century. You obviously have no idea with respect to the nature of the threat that emanates from Islam. Moreover, if the USA doesn’t lead the world in the defense of freedom and liberty, then who will? No one and the world will become dominated by totalitarianism, Islam in this case. Indeed, what you and your ilk advocate is a sure recipe for our ultimate destruction. If only this world was so uncomplicated.