Was that a missle launced off the coast of Cali?

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    martin said....

    radar proves it was that plane. it is public info and you can track it yourself and compare it to the times of the photos.


    yes.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    At commercial airliner flying at 30,000 feet would be 80 miles away at the horizon. A normal descent at 3500 feet per minute would begin about 60 miles out. Cargo airliners can maximize efficiency by staying a high altitudes longer and descending more steeply and closer to the airport.
     
  3. shane0911

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    uh huh. 60 miles out you say, and just how fast do they fly? Couple hundred mph I'd imagine. Has to require some velocity to maintain flight. Pilots are pulling some serious G's if they are waiting until 60 miles out.


    Look you two jabronies, I really don't care if it was a ups plane, a missle, a rocket ship or effing santa and his sleigh. I'm just saying planes don't wait until they are on top of the airport and then go all kamakazee to the run way. Apparently wiskers does but he is wrong and thats okay.
     
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    Nope. 3000 to 3500 FPM is a standard airliner descent.

    Nobody but you has suggested this.
     
  5. martin

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    you are denying that you are alleging something, even as you are alleging it.

    what are you saying happened? i am saying a plane landed like normal. what is your claim? is your claim that this wasnt a plane because the descent was too steep? but the descent wasnt steep, and so what if it was? that doesnt mean anything!

    look, i know the truther code better than anyone. it goes like this:

    "look, i am just saying i dont buy the official explanation because i am not a sheep like you"

    "if the official story is true, how does that explain (insert something irrelevant and made up here)"

    "i know you can dismantle all my claims, so i will deny i am making any claims except for to refuse the sane reality of this situation"

    "i dont understand a particular aspect of science of physics or procedure, or i will just make something up, the act incredulous about the reality because it opposes my invented info"


    again, i repeat:

    what exactly is out of the ordinary, based on what data?
     
  6. shane0911

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    You!

    Again, once more for you, I am not claiming whatever it is you are claiming I am claiming. You are claiming the flight was normal and the approach to the airport was a gradual one. I am saying that judging by the pictures that the plane was IN MY OPINION at a much higher altitude than it should have been if it was landing only 60 miles away from where it was. That is it, nothing more. I work on an air force base and see cargo planes come and go all day long and I don't see any of them on some crazy steep approach. Perhaps the ups flight made circles around the airport on its way down? In the end it really doesn't matter.
     
  7. martin

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    which it was

    well, thats nice but your opinion is wrong and opposed to what actually happened. my question is why you cant accept that.

    well, it did circle and land from east to west, which the flight path shows, as i linked. again, not one single thing is out of the ordinary here, and your opinion is based on your ignorance poor understanding of the situation, nothing more. there is no reason for you to accuse anyone of being a sheep or blindly believing, simply because you cant analyze something correctly.

    you are backing off now, saying you are making no claims. but you said:

    " I'm just saying planes don't wait until they are on top of the airport and then go all kamakazee to the run way."

    which is totally irrelevant because that is not what happened. you might as well just randomly interject that you dont believe pilots can land planes while also making ice cream. it is totally irrelevant because it didnt happen. but you are not claiming it did i guess?
     
  8. shane0911

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    martin you have gone completely mad.
     
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    you invented a lie about how this plane dropped like a dive bomber, which it clearly didnt, for no reason at all, based on absolutely nothing.. i am the crazy one.
     
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    I did no such thing. Check the post where red has all the figures. 60 miles out = 20k feet. I don't know how high the plane in the picture is but it appears to be much higher than 20k. That is what I am saying, nothing more nothing less. You are twisting stuff around to further amuse yourself which is fine. It is kind of fun actually. You take this stuff far more seriously than you should.
     

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