Wade may never coach again in college

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  1. kluke

    kluke Founding Member

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    Dude stop!! There is absolutely zero equivalence between Wade and Rosa and what they did and why they did it. There is never going to be a Wade Museum, Wade Memorial Pay Player Statue, or Wade Memorial highway. And trust me, as Chris Rock would say "School will be open on his birthday"
     
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  2. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    its a logical analogy, they are not morally equivalent. try to think about the idea here, try to be a bit more abstract. i am helping you understand why your point is not valid, with an analogy. your claim was that it doesnt matter if the rule is right or wrong or just or not, you are meant to obey it, and thats the right way to act. i am showing you that this is not true. you did not understand, so i made an analogy, to help you. then you are apparently unable to understand the analogy is a counterexample to your logical statement. the analogy shows a counterexample that renders your point invalid. the analogy applies to the concept, its immaterial whoa re the particular in the example. will wade and rosa parks are not similar. wade is a harder worker and better at coaching.

    if a rule is wrong and stupid, then violating that rule is not wrong. rules dont define morality. so the question here is about the ethics of paying players.

    i read the entire NCAA notice. the claim is that wade is violating the principles of fair competition by illegally recruiting players. but thats not true, because he is using no advantages not available to, or used by his competition. so its not unfair. and as far as the actual paying of the players, i would argue that they earn that money. right now i am watching the tournament. and the ads during the tournament are very expensive. because people are watching. because the players are very talented. because they worked hard.

    true or false: its ok to pay players?

    if the answer is false, would you favor firing all coaches that pay players? if not, why are you being selective?
     
  3. furduknfish

    furduknfish #ohnowesuckagain

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    Never go full Taint.
     
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  4. furduknfish

    furduknfish #ohnowesuckagain

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    Baw, you are going off deep end now. RP performed an act of civil disobedience that in no way could she immediately profit from and in fact knew she would suffer for. WW sought and received immediate return from voilating that law. Moral highroad and sacrifise had nothing to do with it.

    I think most here agree with the principle of paying players just not WWs poorly planned execution of doing so or the current state of NIL for that matter. Whether he did it out of ego or stupidity is moot. He gone. Debating further only serves to put you in the same category as new Taint.
     
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  5. Jmg

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    if we agree that paying players is ok, then why does it matter at all the execution? because it becomes wrong when the NCAA gets access to his private info via the FBI?

    the NCAA cannot listen to your phone, its illegal. its not sloppy to fail to anticipate a federal snooping.

    i talk to my friend on the phone about buying weed all the time. because i trust my conversations are private, by virtue of bein american. do i deserve jail? for being sloppy?

    i dont, it doesnt matter if i am sloppy. the issue is whether what i did was wrong or not. its a travesty to condemn folks not for what they do, but for how they did it. how they do it does not matter.

    all that matters is whether the rule itself is right. if it isnt, then any violation of it is not wrong. and even the NCAA has conceded that its ok to pay players, albeit indirectly. which means that there claim in the NOA about paying players being a competitive ufair advantage is false.

    i read the entire NCAA complaint. its all typical stuff, and much of it is utter bullshit, for example when they ran into the watford family at a restaurant and talked to them, and a bama fan took a photo and posted it.
     
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    Perple Founding Member

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    I'd say it's a character question.

    Of course Wade getting fired for cheating & potentially seriously damaging LSU's future just might just be considered a critique.
     
  7. kluke

    kluke Founding Member

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    My nomination for perfect post of the week!! Golden.
     
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    its not a poor character move to pay players. all successful coaches do it.
     
  9. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    not sure who you think said there would be. i am just saying that its ok to pay players. NCAA agrees, its legal now.

    NCAA is spineless idiots. if you love them, good for you. yesterday they let a man win their national championship in swimming. but you go ahead and keep siding with them and thinking they care about the athletes.
     
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    In January 2020, Tigertap accepted a position with the LSU Legal department. He's done much legal work for LSU in the past, some pro bono work as well. He now has direct contact with the current LSU BOS. Still does spec work as a prosecuting attorney. Long story, but Tap has had many different job offers from LSU over the years, but this one was too good to pass up. Also a former contributor/ writer for the old Tiger Rag magazine.

    Sadly, when the Duck & Kyle banned him, we lost over 20, probably more, posters in 2-7 days & the only 2 posters here (Tap & "Uncle Nick") with any direct, accurate & real knowledge of the LSU athletic department workings.

    Was Tap wrong?

    Miles 77% winner
    Orgeron - 60% winner

    Hell of a nosedive.


    I'm not taking sides here. Tap is my friend, but we don't always agree, like most friends. Just passing along some info on a former poster.
     
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