W T F KICKING GAME?

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  1. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    The bad one from the AU game was Helton's. 27 yarder...NOT downed inside the 20. Again, he's hit some bombs, but he just shanks 'em every now and then. Again, inconsistant.
     
  2. cristof11

    cristof11 Founding Member

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    Is BAMA either first or second?

    Update: Never mind, BAMA is 96th in the nation in net punting. Seems like there some here that are tryiong to make things worse than they really are.
     
  3. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    Who is comparing LSU's punting to Bama's?
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I think I have been paying attention. LSU is #3 in the SEC in net punting. Bama is #10.
     
  5. cristof11

    cristof11 Founding Member

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    You may have not noticed but LSU plays BAMA next saturday.
     
  6. Fishhead

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    No kidding? Really?? Again, who was comparing LSU punting to Bama punting? The thread is brought up about the punting SO FAR THIS YEAR...not comparing it to Bama punting. It was brought up due to a 19 yarder last night...one of quite a few this year under 30 yds.
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    And Red, I hear what you're saying...please try to look into what I'm saying. I'm simply referring to those 50 yarders that inflate the average...yet net 30 because they wind up in the endzone for touchbacks. Then when we need a 50 yarder, we get a 19 yarder. You cannot deny the inconsistancy in our punting game this year. Again, look at the past games...the overall avg will be near 40, with a long of 50+...and a short of 20 something. That's inconsistant, man. There is no reason a D-1 punter ever kicks a ball only 20 something yds...or less...unless there is a huge rush (there hasn't been) or he's trying to down it deep. (He doesn't)
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    Earlier, you were defending Helton in particular. Now you're using the TEAM average to defend him...and that doesn't work. His one kick against AU was 27 yds...and there was not a big rush, nor was it downed inside the 20. It was just a terrible kick...one of his many this season. If you look at my post you quoted, I am talking about Helton, and you are talking about the TEAM'S average.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Can't I? Look, it works that way for everyone's punter. Averages are like that by definition, amigo. But net punting yardage is real yardage and LSU is doing better at it than any of our remaining opponents.
     
  8. cristof11

    cristof11 Founding Member

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    LSU has only had one punt result in a touchback this season. Look it up. As far as Helton's 27 yarder, the dude sustained a hip injury and that was his only punt againbst Auburn. I'm no doctor but I think that a hip injury might affect a punt. Yesterday, he didn't play.
     
  9. Fishhead

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    True...GREAT coverage this year. Remember the thread pre season where we were talking about wanting the special teams improved? Here it is. We got it, and it helps a lot.

    You're right...only one touchback. And it was on his 60 yarder (59) against MSU. Like I said, if we need a boomer, we get a shank. If we need to pin them deep, we get a 59 yarder. By the way, there have only been two of his kicks inside the 20.

    UW Avg 32 Long 38 Inside 20 0
    Vandy Avg 40 Long 50 Inside 20 0
    ULL Avg 44 Long 48 Inside 20 1 (his best game)
    MSU Avg 44.5 Long 59(tb) Inside 20 0
    UGA Avg 37.3 Long 42 Inside 20 1 (good game)
    UF Avg 36.7 Long 51 Inside 20 0
    AU Avg 27 Long 27 Inside 20 0


    The Vandy game, there was a sub 30 kick.
    The UF game, there was a sub 30 kick
    The MSU game, there was a sub 30 kick

    In those games, there were no kicks downed inside the 20.

    I have said all thru this thread that Helton has been inconsistant. The facts are there to support that. A few over 50, more under 30. Average? Upper 30s.

    *The above stats only include Helton's kicks.
     
  10. cristof11

    cristof11 Founding Member

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    And just exactly how his inconsistent punting has hurt this LSU team?
     

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