Vet's kids taken away because he smoked medical marijuana

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    When are people going to admit there is an epidemic in this country when it comes to addictive prescription meds? Money it all boils down to money and it's really sad that the profit for some companies mean more than the lives of humans.
     
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    Come on....has it been on nightly news shows or cable networks? That article is 2 weeks old....I never heard of this case.

    Let's break down the facts. He decided to move to Kansas to GROW pot meaning an intent to distribute and then the dumbshit posted about it on Facebook. It can't have escaped his attention that giving public notice of your future intent to distribute marijuana right next door to a state that doesn't allow it, is well, stupid.

    Then he says he and his wife left their children with relatives while "dealing with the move". I moved over half a dozen times between the ages of 3 and 17 and with a single mom. It was difficult and a pain in the ass....she would never have left us with anyone. I wouldn't cross state lines without my kids. Moving is already a big enough deal, why escalate the trauma by leaving them behind? But that's just me.

    And then those relatives took the kids to police! I have to think that there was something more going on than just the parents smoking a little dope. If he's got PTSD, has been addicted to other drugs including the heroin and has been to rehab, perhaps there are issues with emotional instability in the home.

    Look, I think everything is moving in the direction of legalizing pot. But right now, that's not the law in every state so citizens are still required to obey the law. This man and his wife made some dumb choices and unfortunately they have lost their kids. "They’re holding my kids hostage and threatening to terminate my rights if I don’t seek cannabis-abuse therapy in a state that’s legal."

    If this is the issue he's willing to fall on his sword for then I wish him success. Me? They take my kids, I'm doing whatever they say to get them back. A few months and few clean tests is nothing compared to the amount of time they are currently missing.
     
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    I agree completely. There's also a bit of a problem with alcohol.
     
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    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Yeah I admit he was pretty fucking stupid for posting it on Facebook. But I still don't think this warrants getting kids taken away. Kansas needs to give them back and let him leave the state and just let Colorado worry about it. I don't get why republicans who are adament about states rights fight this. You have neighboring states suing Colorado because they legalized pot. Wtf?
     
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    Alcohol is bad, but you just can't take people's booze away. That failed miserably. But the pain meds in this country is out of control. We are basically creating heroin addicts. Prescribe someone a strong pain med, they get addicted then cut off, and the only way to treat it is A. Go through treatment which is expensive as fuck. Your initial visit is 500 dollars then 250 - 300 for follow ups, then the meds are anywhere from 175 to 600 dollars a month, or B. Find shit on the street or Internet.
     
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    Why do you think a relative with whom the parents left the kids, took the kids to police saying they'd been abandoned? Does it make sense to you that parents moving to another state would leave their children behind? The youngest is 5 for cripe's sake! My point is I think the kids were taken for more than what this man is saying. Nobody in trouble ever tells the whole truth.

    Maybe Kansas should give the kids back but they have laid out a course of action for success. Me? I'm doing what I need to do. And yes, it's stupid to sue Colorado.
    I'm not suggesting that alcohol be made illegal. We are way too gone for that. However, equivocating amongst any form of mind-altering substance is dishonest. The legality doesn't change the effects. If booze and prescription meds have bad consequences at times, so does pot.
     
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    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Pizza has consequences. Anything in mass quantity does. The thing about pot though, you can't do it in mass quantity.
     
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    Mass quantity isn't required for negative consequence. My point is that alcohol, pot, and prescription meds are on the same continuum. I wouldn't choose to champion any of them.
     
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    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Oh no that is completely false. I could start pulling out statistics and numbers but I doubt they would do any good.
     

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