VCU done for the season

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  1. TigerBait3

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    Davidson coach Bob McKillop. :wink:
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    There are a LOT of good young coaches out there. Notice how guys pop up after every tournament and season...I doubt they became "good" that year. So you are absolutely right, lots of good ones that most have not heard of yet.
     
  2. kcal

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    Western Kentucky University coach Darrin Horn's bio

    Darrin Horn[​IMG][​IMG] Position: Head coach Experience: 5th season [​IMG]
    WKU Basketball is known nationally for its tradition of excellence. No one takes that standard more seriously than current fifth-year head coach Darrin Horn, who has built on his success as a player on the Hill in keeping WKU at the forefront of college basketball.

    In averaging better than 20 wins per season — the Hilltoppers are 82-41 (66.7%) under Horn, 41-19 (68.3%) in the Sun Belt Conference — only the legendary John Oldham (84 wins) has recorded more victories in his first four years as WKU’s head coach. Horn has twice led the Toppers to the National Invitation Tournament, falling to eventual champion South Carolina in 2006 in their last appearance in the event.

    On the basis of that résumé, Horn ranks 14th on the Basketball Times’ list of top 40 Up-and-Coming Coaches entering the 2007-08 campaign.

    No Hilltopper head coach had ever led WKU to three straight years of 20 or more wins in his first four seasons until Horn accomplished the feat last winter, as the Toppers finished 22-11 overall and 12-6 in the Sun Belt. In fact, all six league losses were by five points or less, with four decided by one possession, as they still earned one of three first-round byes in the conference tournament.

    In 2005-06, the Hilltoppers posted a 23-8 mark, winning the SBC East Division for the first time since 2002-03 after compiling a 12-2 league record, while reaching the championship game of the league tournament for the first time under Horn. That came on the heels of a 22-9 finish his second season, when he led the Hilltoppers to an 88-80 victory over Kent State in the opening round of the NIT for the school’s first win in a national postseason tournament since he was a senior on the 1994-95 squad. The victory total was the second-highest for a coach in his second season on the Hill (Oldham guided WKU to a 25-3 mark in 1965-66) as WKU improved to 9-5 in the Sun Belt Conference and advanced to the semifinals of the league tournament.

    In his first year as head coach on the Hill, Horn helped the Toppers to 15 wins and a second-place finish in the Sun Belt Conference East Division despite returning only one starter from the previous season.

    Actually, his 68.3 winning percentage in league play is tops among active SBC coaches.

    Individually, several Toppers have been recognized not only on the conference but national level for their achievements. Courtney Lee — a two-time National Association of Basketball Coaches all-district selection — was one of 50 players in the country named to the Naismith and Wooden Award preseason lists last fall, while Anthony Winchester was an honorable mention All-American in 2005-06 who earned NABC all-district honors following each of his last two seasons.

    WKU has had the Sun Belt Player of the Year in two of Horn’s first four seasons at the helm of the program, with Winchester claiming the honor in 2006 and Mike Wells recognized following the 2003-04 campaign — Wells was also the Defensive Player of the Year as a senior. Lee was the league’s 2005 Freshman of the Year, and Nigel Dixon was named the Newcomer of the Year the previous season.

    All four individuals picked up first-team all-conference honors, with Winchester accomplishing the feat in each of his last two years.

    And, Ty Rogers was recognized for his work off the court when he was named first-team ESPN The Magazine Academic All-District IV a year ago.

    Horn promised to run an up-tempo offense when hired in April 2003, and he has not failed to deliver on that vow. WKU has finished in the top 25 in the country in scoring in each of the last two years, while it also ranked in the top 50 last winter in three-point field-goal percentage (11th — 40.4%), field-goal percentage (22nd — 48.2%) and three-pointers per outing (44th — 8.0 per game). In addition to standing among the top 30 nationally in all those categories in 2005-06, the Hilltoppers also finished 20th nationally in scoring offense and 23rd in rebounding margin in 2004-05.

    In fact, Horn’s teams have led the conference in scoring three straight years, the first time that has happened since 1983-85, as well as in field-goal percentage twice in his first four seasons. WKU actually ranked among the top three in the 13-member league in eight different statistical categories a year ago, including scoring margin, field-goal percentage, three-point field-goal percentage — the Toppers were one of two schools in the Sun Belt to connect on better than 40 percent from long range — three-point field-goal percentage defense, steals and turnover margin.

    And, Horn is not afraid to challenge his squad. After putting together the highest-ranked non-conference slate the Hilltoppers have ever faced in 2005-06, which was judged the 28th toughest in the country, WKU’s non-conference schedule ranked 58th in the country last winter. In addition to taking on five different Southeastern Conference opponents (Auburn, Florida — the defending national champion at the time — Georgia, Mississippi State and Tennessee) during his tenure, the Toppers have also faced Arizona (Pac 10), Nebraska (Big 12) and Virginia (ACC).
    Topper fans have taken notice of Horn’s efforts. Not only has WKU led the conference in attendance each of the last three years, it sold out four ’05-06 home games — that was the most in the regular season since the 2001-02 campaign.
    Off the court, every player that has finished his eligibility has earned a degree from WKU.
     
  3. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Sorry, I didn't know I needed to live in the vicinity to know what was going on.
    Its not like the internet, tv, phone or any other communications exist in todays world.
    I'm sure I know what LSU's record in basketball was the last 3 or 4 years.
    I'm not sure where you're coming or going from with your comments but its too bad you didn't respond to TgernHornlands post, he made a good point about you all.
    If there is anything I don't know about exactly, it is college basketball of today meaning I don't totally know all about the good programs and coaches out there because I don't keep up with it as a whole, Gonzaga, Xavier, etc other than they seem to be good.
    I have a family with two young kids, once you have that you can't keep up with everything.

    What I have learned from this thread is that I can bait SabanFan and string him along once he shows up, I had a good time with him.
    I'm sure I made his day since he didn't have anything else to do but look up posts and argue about something he cares little about, basketball.

    Happy Easter Everyone
    I'm excited about a new era in LSU basketball, it reminds me of baseball in a way, new beginnings, excitement and everyone has a chance, in first place to start the season.
     
  4. clair

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    it's nothing against you at all... you just have said a lot of stuff throughout the thread that just frankly... weren't true...

    Like
    1. Brady is a bad X's and O's coach.

    that couldn't be more off. He didn't always have the PG to execute the sets, but the sets were always pretty solid. His problem has been the players just didn't like him and respect him enough to sacrifice themselves for the betterment of the program for him.

    2. the team was poor defensively under Brady

    This year, yes they were, because they didn't defend around the goal, but every other year outside of the probation years, they were an upper-half SEC defensive team

    3. Brady didn't have a winning SEC record.

    That IS true.... partially. He was 68-67 in 9 years without the sanctions, because let's be real.... no one on God's green earth could have won the 1st 2 seasons with a team of walk-on's.

    4. Brady didn't compete with the rest of the SEC

    They won 2 SEC titles in his 9 chances to be competitive. That is 2nd or 3rd in the whole league.



    Was it time for a change? yeah. it probably was, but he wasn't the absolute bottom-feeding joke you make him out to be. You just have selective memory and only remember the bad years.

    He won 58% of his games in 11 years. If you go by my 9-season count, then he went 171-106 for a 61% winning clip.

    I think we would all agree Dale Brown was the best coach in school history. He won at a 59% clip and made it to the dance 13 times in his 26 years for a 50% clip.

    If you go by the 9 winnable years Brady had, he made it 4 times in those 9 years, and would have made it next year to make it 5 in 10 years to get to that 50% mark.
     
  5. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    You know what I mean.

    You just have to interview and be sure to choose the right one. For every Bruce Pearl there's a Buzz Peterson in there that is NOT the right one. Just because a guy went to the Sweet 16 with Davidson or Butler one year doesn't mean he's right to get LSU back on track. He's got to be a high energy guy and promote this program to the people......young Dale Brown style.

    I've heard......no Clair I haven't interviewed the guy myself........that Anthony Grant isn't a promoter or some motivational personality. Maybe he isn't the right guy in the long run. I think LSU needs an exceptional personality for basketball and baseball like Dale and Skip were.
     
  6. clair

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    I won't call you out. I don't expect people here to know the guy personally. I just expect them to at least know a little bit about VCU before proclaiming him the king of CBB, because he definitely isn't.
     
  7. LsuCraig

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    This whole post was defending the indefensible. I hope you feel dirty doing it cause I felt dirty reading it. It's defending absolute and utter mediocrity. Brady was a totally indefensible personality and an average coach at best.

    When you throw out Brady's first 2 years it just makes the post stupid and lacking in integrity. I for one won't discuss Brady's records and his ineptitude in building anything cohesive in a program. It's embarassing and a shame what he did with his 11 years and $1 million salary. Comparing Brady and Brown is also disgusting so I won't even try.

    I'm ready to move on to the future and I get the jist of Sour's comments. You can keep arguing over the past by advocating Butch get the job or arguing over Brady's winning percentage.

    If you continue, then please throw in some stats also of when you wanted to argue over keeping DiNardo or Smoke too....how they were just one year away and had a better winning percentage than Hallman or Archer. It's a joke. Brady NEVER BUILT anything here and deserved to get run off. Just let it go dude.
     
  8. LsuCraig

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    I don't think I ever called him the king of basketball as did NO ONE else on here. You're just making stuff up IMO. You have a hard-on for not hiring Grant. Cool. I get it.
     
  9. clair

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    how is Brady winning 58% of his games at LSU a joke, but Dale Brown doing the same legendary?

    that's the gist of all I am trying to say.

    How is Brady's 1 lucky run to the Final Four a fluke, but Dale Brown's 2-3 runs part of his allure?

    you all just don't like the dude personally and can't see he wasn't THAT bad.

    Mediocre, yes. But then again, I did say in my post he deserved to be fired. You all just read what you want to read.
     
  10. clair

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    considering I addressed the whole forum and not you individually, you either are:

    a. full of yourself
    b. have a guilty conscience. :)
     

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