Tyrann Mathieu Dismissed from LSU--Violation of team policy

It affects it negatively because of the ridiculous taboo associated with it. As far as Ricky, I have tons of respect for him. What someone does behind closed doors that has ZERO effect on anyone elses rights should be no one's concern. It's not like these guys are running for president.

 

...like Bill "I didn't inhale" Clinton

 

I really wish my point was easier for me to convey to you. Thing is, I don't disagree with one single thing you said above.

The only thing I disagreed with you on before (not here) was that you implied, or maybe came straight out and said, that he was a poison in the locker room, and I thought you were talking about last season. Others thought the same thing, so maybe both of us just had trouble getting our point across. But again, FWIW, I don't disagree with the above. I challenge you to find one single instance where I said he shouldn't have been dismissed...

I don't really have a strong opinion on this, but if I had to take a stance, I'd say his draft stock, assuming he can stay clean and play FBS ball at a very high level again, will actually go UP from where it is right now. Of course, had he not screwed up and lost THIS season, his draft stock would have been at it's peak. But Janzen Jackson and Cecil Collins both tried the McNeese route, and Jackson didn't even get drafted. Collins may have, don't remember. But it certainly wasn't with any fanfare. Of course, he screwed up at McNeese too...and continued to screw up. I don't know when he's scheduled for release from prison in FL.

We agree here.

Perception is reality.

 

I don't disagree in terms of what *should* be permissible under the law. But, that is not the way the laws are currently written.

 

Reality is that what I have is an opinion...Les Miles was judgmental. He decided guilt and as opposed to innocence and he executed the sentence. That's judgmental. I wasn't anywhere near the jury and my opinion wasn't asked.

As far as my opinion about poison in the locker room and how detrimental that type of behavior is to a team, it evolved a year ago when the first suspension occurred. Chase4LSU and I had a detailed discussion about that at the Abita brew pub with a former Alabama assistant coach under Debose, Stallings, Shula, and Curry who is a customer of mine and lives in Abita.

He was very clear about how much of a problem that is to a team from a coaches perspective. He was the one who used the term poison...I should have credited him.

 

Facebook too.

 

I respect your opinion, but a person is not judgemental when you have the facts before you- multiple failed drug tests. It's a compliance department policy that he violated. He knew the rules. TM could not handle the fame and thought he was untouchable. In TM's mind, Miles would never throw him off the team because he was the "honey badger." He believed the crap about "taking what he wants" with no consequences.
The kid needs help. Normally, you do not go into a rehab center for pot only. Ususally it involves pills, coke, or harder drugs. He needs to get better before he even considers football again.

 

How the hell do you know what he thought?? That's bullshit, none of us have a phucking clue, we weren't there, yet we all speculate.

Don't believe all propaganda you read.

 

There is another possibility.

Perhaps TM entered rehab as a charade or form of damage control to keep his draft status high.

TM is eligible to be drafted this spring whether he plays football or not this fall. Going into rehab makes for a good "touchy feely" story about overcoming adversity, etc, while at the same time avoiding injury - or perhaps more importantly - his highlight reel getting diluted while playing for a team that has no equivalent supporting talent.

If it is just pot, the actual addiction rate for marijuana is about 8%, whereas for regular users of other substances that are far more chemically addictive the percentages are much higher (alcohol is about 32%, heroin 23%, cocaine 17%, alcohol 15%, etc). Given that, the recidivism rate for a "recovered" pot addict is probably pretty low, making a low bar for success in that area.

Going into rehab makes the likelihood that TM tests clean at the combine early next year probably pretty high.

Bottom line: TM is not coming back to LSU and he will not play for another team before the draft: the risks to his chances of a big fat NFL contract are too great. Going into rehab all but eliminates those risks.

 

Looks like I struck a nerve. Yes I was speculating on the reason a kid, after flunking a drug test (probably more than one) would continue using, knowing that he will be tested again. You can say he made a mistake. But that my friend is bullsh**. That is stupidity or addicition. That would be like being cited for a DWI and continue to drink and drive. You know what the results of your actions will be: jail time.