Troops in Syria

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  1. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    Today I walked around a couple parks in central Athens and they were packed with refugees. Most looked middle Easters but some looked kinda Central Asian like you would imagine a person from Kazakhstan would look.

    In Europe you can travel freely through the schengen countries, you can just walk across borders and fly from one to the next like it was the United States. However, lots of the Balkans and s few others are not schengen. Macedonia, for example, and Bulgaria. I crossed the border between those last week on a bus and it was a tremendous hassle.

    Anyways, most of the immigrants end up in turkey and Greece and Italy. Italy is way better because you can just walk from Italy to Brussels if you want, no border checks. But Greece is locked in by non schengen countries like I just mentioned, Macedonia for example. And those guys don't sign on to eu bullshit about admitting refugees, so these fellas are stuck here in Athens.

    This whole thing is fucking complicated I and sympathize with both sides. If the german far right neo nazis are screaming how Muslims are terrorists, and they should fucking stay out and the Syrians can rot, I hear that. But I also want to increase global collective utility, Yunno, I want poor fuckfaces to have a chance. So it's a tough one.

    It's too bad it's not a simpler conflict where we could just support the good guys and end it. Instead it's this geopolitical nightmare with Isis and al Assad and even goddamn Russia and everyone Else, none of who seem like innocent buddies of ours. It's all fucked I tells ya, fucked.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    If the EU was smart, they would be pouring money into Turkey, Jordan, and Lebanon to expand and upgrade the refugee camps. Replace the tents with cabins with heat, provide plenty of food, and find jobs for the men. Keep them close enough to Syria that they can go back when it gets better. Just don't make them live in squalor so that they will do anything to leave. If they get to Germany and France, they will never go home.

    The duplicitous Turks are behind this refugee crisis. They make bad conditions for refugees and encourage them to move on.
     
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  3. Jmg

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    These cats are too good for France, they say fuck that and head for Germany and ideally, Copenhagen or Stockholm, where the rich white folks live.

    I kinda think the best plan is to give em tough love and say go fight it out, save your own country. Especially considering like 60 percent of these migrants are military age males. Go back to your town and fight it out. Shoot Isis, shoot Assad, and shoot anyone that doesn't want to become like the countries you want to leave for. Westernize, or die. Free elections, free markets, no dictators or theocracy.
     
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    el005639 Founding Member

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    The Turks are shady enough to know there are some really bad people mixed in and want then out of Turkey.

    I am up in Canada this week and find out funny the Canadians are falling over themselves to admit 25k refugees by the end of the year. How's can you possibly vet that many folks who have no documentation in 6 weeks. This will become our problem.
     
  6. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Yes, and while everyone is focused on the border with Mexico the one to the north presents an equally challenging problem. Too many don't realize this.
     
  7. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

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    Shit, who needs borders when we we're just letting them in lock, stock, and barrel?

    http://www.wwl.com/Syrian-refugees-begin-arriving-in-metro-New-Orlean/22148532

    Not only that, but we're funding them as well. It's only a matter of time before what we saw in Paris starts happening here. I'm kind of surprised we haven't seen it already.
     
  8. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    The shooting of the recruiting center in Tennessee, the shooting at Fort Hood, or what about crashing planes into the World Trade Center? It has happened here.
     
  9. Jmg

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    I kinda think Snowden has it right and everything we do is monitored and that's why terrorists can't seem to get it going here.
     
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    Didn't mean to imply that it's NEVER happened here. To clarify, I meant that I'm surprised we haven't seen anything on that scale since 9/11. The Fort Hood incidents are obviously horrible, but both were perpetrated by American citizens and the loss of life was not as severe as what happened in France.
     

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