TOP 4 BCS Comparison

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  1. LSUtigah

    LSUtigah Founding Member

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    For Comparison

    USC
    at No. 6 Auburn (6-5) W 23-0
    BYU (4-7) W 35-18
    Hawaii (6-4) W 61-32
    at California (6-6) L 34-31
    at Arizona State (4-7) W 37-17
    Stanford (4-5) W 44-21
    at Notre Dame (4-6) W 45-14
    at Washington (5-6) W 43-23
    No. 6 Washington State (9-2) W 43-16
    at Arizona (2-9) W 45-0
    UCLA (6-5)
    Oregon State (7-3)

    Opponents wins 65 losses 65

    LSU
    Louisiana Monroe (1-10) W 49-7
    at Arizona (2-9) W 59-13
    Western Illinois (8-3) W 35-7
    No. 7 Georgia (8-2) W 17-10
    at Mississippi St. (2-8) W 41-6
    Florida (8-3) L 19-7 (Now No. 14)
    at South Carolina (5-6) W 33-7
    No. 21 Auburn (6-5) W 31-7
    Louisiana Tech (5-6) W 49-10
    at Alabama (4-7) W 27-3
    at No. 15 Mississippi (8-2)
    Arkansas (7-3)

    Opponents wins 64 losses 64
    (Wins will increase in as a result of the SECCG)

    Ohio State
    No. 19 Washington (5-6) W 28-9
    San Diego State (5-6) W 16-13
    No. 22 N.C. State (7-4) W 44-38
    Bowling Green (8-2) W 24-17
    Northwestern (5-6) W 20-0
    at No. 22 Wisconsin (7-4) L 17-10
    No. 9 Iowa (8-3) W 19-10
    at Indiana (2-9) W 35-6
    at Penn State (3-8) W 21-20
    No. 15 Michigan State (7-4) W 33-23
    No. 10 Purdue (8-3) W 16-13
    at No. 5 Michigan (9-2)

    Opponents wins 74 losses 57

    Oklahoma
    North Texas (8-3) W 37-3
    at Alabama (4-7) W 20-13
    Fresno State (7-4) W 52-28
    UCLA (6-5) W 59-24
    at Iowa State (2-8) W 53-7
    at No. 11 Texas (9-2) W 65-13
    Missouri (7-3) W 34-13
    at Colorado (5-6) W 34-20
    No. 15 Oklahoma State (8-3) W 52-9
    Texas A&M (4-7) W 77-0
    Baylor (3-8) W 41-3
    at Texas Tech (7-4)

    Opponents wins 70 losses 60 losses
     
  2. MobileBengal

    MobileBengal Founding Member

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    Did you factor in Western Illinois? Remember, they dont count. There is some way the contribute depending on wins and losses to Div 1A opponents, but im not sure the exact rule.
     
  3. TejasTiger

    TejasTiger Founding Member

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    Mobile, the BCS strength of schedule for non Div 1A teams covers only games played against Div 1A teams. W. Illinois played Cent. Michigan (or one of those midwestern directional schools in Div 1A) and beat them, so their record in the eyes of the BCS is 1-1 (loss to LSU). Now, that 1-1 gets computed as 66% of LSU's opponent SoS for this particular team, with the remaining 33% being W. Illinois and Cent. Michigan's opponents opponents record versus Div. 1A.

    What that is, I do not know, but odds are pretty good it's far worse than Arizona's opponents opponents record, especially since Arizona has played a brutal non-conf. schedule this year (LSU, Purdue, etc.).
     
  4. JonTheTigerFan

    JonTheTigerFan Founding Member

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    You are right Tejas, and although LSU and USC's opponent's records are comparable right now, their opponents' opponents records are what is keeping LSU down for now. However, many people project LSU's SOS to surpass USC's if we get to the SECCG and win. I cant wait to see how this whole BCS mess shakes out. As frustrating as it is, it is sure exciting.
     
  5. MikeD

    MikeD Sports Genius

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    Actually, W. Illinois record in the eyes of the BCS is 1-0 because they don't count the win/loss when LSU plays its opponents. That way a team isn't punished by beating its opponents and the record for the SOS how an opponent did against the other teams it played.

    The team that is absolutely KILLING us right now is freakin' ULM!! I know that it was thought that we would need a tuneup before the Arizona game but looking back on it now I think that we would have killed them even without a warmup game. Hindsight is 20-20.

    :lsug: :geaux: :lsug: :geaux: :lsug:
     
  6. DarkHornet

    DarkHornet Louisiana Sports Fan

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    If Ohio State loses this weekend, I believe there is a GREAT chance that LSU can pass USC up in the BCS.

    Looking at the current projected BCS SOS standings at:

    http://www.geocities.com/rtell/SOSP.html

    LSU can move up to 26th and USC will move down to 31st. That alone can help the Tigers a great deal.

    The more important thing to look at here is where LSU is in comparison to USC in the computer polls. LSU has already caught USC in one poll. Mark my words, as long as LSU wins out, no way does USC ever pass us up in any computer after we pass them.

    This leaves the other six.

    On Anderson & Hester, LSU went from .741 to .749 this week whereas USC went from .756 to .757. This means LSU sits just .008 behind them after making up .007 in this week alone. (About half the deficit) I like our chances to catch USC in that one.

    On the Richard Billingsley, LSU gained 3.8 points where as USC only gained 1.5. LSU sits 12 points behind the Trojans, but with the major difference in SOS from here on out, it's not out of reach for LSU to catch them.

    In Colley Matrix, LSU went from .06712 behind USC to .04161 behind after this week. (Little more than 1/3 the deficit) This is another one that's not out of the question for us to catch up in.

    On Peter Wolfe, LSU trails USC 6.955 to 6.820 (0.135 difference) They don't have previous week results posted, but for comparison sake, Ohio State has 7.529 and Texas has 7.005. BTW, Texas passed USC up this week in that poll despite the fact that it was Texas Tech that they played. So I love our chances to catch USC in that poll.

    This brings us to the crazy polls.

    In Jeff Sagarin, LSU trails USC 89.02 to 86.99. That is a lot of ground to make up, but USC's SOS in that poll is 22 and LSU's is 61. So we may be able to make up ground by SOS adjustment, I don't know. We'll have to see how this one plays out.

    Finally, the New York Times. I mean, what do you say about a poll that has Florida at 4th, USC at 5th and LSU at 11th. I have no idea how to make sense of this one. On the bright side, LSU trails USC 0.889 to 0.852 while USC trails OSU 0.947 to 0.889.

    Bottom line is, somethings could fall into place and LSU could get ahead of USC in all or at least most computers even without a USC loss. If we got close enough to having a full point lead in the computer average, this would cancel out the 1 point edge they have in the human polls. Add to that the small edge we have in SOS and maybe some QW points for Georgia, and I believe we overtake USC for 2nd.

    So in conclusion, GO WOLVERINES!! :)
     

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