4 losses over the course of 2 regular seasons.. that is where I set the bar. Yes, Miles was there -- but I do not think he coaches at that level anymore. That's what this entire thread is about. We'll find out more as this season plays out. If it goes as the bulk of people are predicting and expecting.. he'll have 2 very mediocre seasons in a row. Frankly.. had we not had some help at the end of 2007 I suspect we would not hear so much praise about Miles. He had some help and took advantage of the situation.. and delivered -so it doesn't matter- but would your perception of Miles be different if 2007 had ended without a NC? One last thing.. this is the main reason our offense is awful this season -- and it falls on CLMs shoulders. 2005 we signed 1 OL (Black remains) 2006 we signed 5 OL (None Remain) 2007 we signed 4 OL (only 2 remain)