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  1. kcal

    kcal Founding Member

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    how do you square this with the irs agent/whistleblower blower accounts of doj intervention to circumvent the investigation?
     
  2. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    TDS doesnt use logic.

    If Trump were not a human, all these "issues" would be viewed in a more normal way. However, everything is an "us vs them" to these people.

    No matter how many times you can say YOU dont like Trump, if you dont support Trumps opposition fully, you are a racist piece of shit!.

    Just like the Russian Ukraine war. You are not allowed to be grey. Its black or white. Russia bad. Ukraine good. OMB!
     
  3. kcal

    kcal Founding Member

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    more of the same?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-tony-bobulinski-former-business-partner-grand-jury/
    Hunter Biden's former business partner was willing to go before a grand jury. He never got the chance.
    Updated on: June 29, 2023 / 1:32 PM

    By Catherine Herridge, Graham Kates

    / CBS News

    A former business partner of Hunter and James Biden, who worked directly with them on a 2017 China energy deal, was never asked to testify to a Delaware grand jury investigating Hunter Biden, two sources familiar with the discussions tell CBS News.

    Tony Bobulinski, the former business partner, was open to testifying, and his attorney reached out to the office of Delaware U.S. Attorney David Weiss. Weiss did not return their calls, the sources said. Weiss' decision not to bring Bobulinski is the latest indication that prosecutors investigating Hunter Biden may have avoided investigating allegations about his father, President Joe Biden
     
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  4. Jmg

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    i think its interesting, for example, to think about the difference between this ukraine war and the iraq war.

    had you opposed the iraq war, nobody would call you a saddam lackey. however if you oppose this war you are called pro-putin.

    there used to an anti-war left. they were against every war.

    now lindsay graham and AOC agree exactly on war. thats very weird. graham would be for every war, thats not surprising. that AOC and bernie are pro-war it what is important to understand here.

    the reason is the media and govt ran with the trump russia lie and it caused virtue signalers to overtly oppose russia as part of the loyal anti-trump lunatic brigade. like i have said before, trump deragngement syndrome is the most useful explanatory phenomenon in moden US politics. everything is defined in terms of it.
     
  5. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    David Weiss, the Special Counsel investigator who was appointed by Bill Barr while Trump was President has been unequivocal that he has had free reign and that no one has dictated the terms of the investigation…so, how do you square that with everything?
     
  6. kcal

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    the irs agent thought it unusual that he indicated he did not have autonomy….

    so unusual that the agent took notes for the record at that time….

    given the predilection for comey on the left, I’d think more weight would be given to the extemporaneously taken notes by those on the left, no?
     
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    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...tion-david-weiss-prosecutor-authority-charges
    Weiss has been very clear. He is the investigator.
     
  8. Jmg

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    i mentioned how the left is now pro-war. i think this is partially because of the media and war machine pushing the trump-russia lies.

    now that the local LA judge here has banned the govt from molesting social media companies to stop them from letting us say true things, like lab leak theory (i was kicked off social media for discussing this, and i was right about it), or that the biden laptop is legit, or that the vaccine is not effective in stopping spread, the left is screaming russia again. allowing us to freely speak online has nothing to do with russia.

    jamie raskin says that preventing govt truth ministers from smashing our free speech is the "putin protection act".

    THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA

    the poltical left wants to punish us with a truth ministry and regulate social media for anything they dont like.

    this is the democratic opinion: "The Republican’s “Putin Protection Act” prevents federal employees from using their official capacities to share information with social media companies that might affect their content moderation decisions"

    i dont need feds telling me anything, they can eat my balls.

    @Tiger in NC this is why i keep pushing on the russian disinfo lie. people are using this russia lie to manipulate us. democrats say we cant have social media free from govt interference because they need to protect us from putin. they say we need a ministry of truth to silence us if we say something they dont like, which they will claim is a lie from putin. they say we need protection from the russian disinfo. but the russian disinfo is made up.

    @Tiger in NC if the biden laptop is russian disinfo, like you keep lying about, should the govt shut me up about it?
     
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  9. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    An instant classic.
     
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  10. Jmg

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    it genuinely annoys me that the media, who in theory is for free speech, is lamenting that the govt has been prevented from intimidating media. they keep saying we need to government to save us from russian disinformation.

    that the biden admin ever wanted the ministry of truth speaks to the state of mind of dems on the question of free speech.

    when they push for the minstry of truth, they generally frame it as a protection against russian disinfo. but they never present any info that russian disinfo is a factor in anything.

    its amazing how much traction the DNC and hillary got out of this russia hoax.

    as i have shown here, you can ask a thousand times where the actual russian disnfo is, and never get an answer. its a tenet of the TDS religion, people will never give up the faith.
     

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