This kind of thinking is becoming the norm

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    also red, it you want to increase global hunger, a great way to do it would be cap and trade. because hunger is about economic restriction. the policies you favor are the ones that create the problems you want to solve with yet more boondoggle solutions.

    we thought we needed to manage the US food supply with federal subsidy. see what happened? a fucking clusterfuck of epic proportions. a food pyramid tat tells people to eat poison, and obesity epidemic and an average america diet that is basically pure murder, while big agra gets rich and laughs at us while cashing government checks.

    meanwhile our cheap food exports destabilize the african countries by crippling their farmers and keeping them from being self-sufficient causing widespread destabilization and death. way to go, you thouhgt you needed to control things.

    let freedom work. you dont know how to manage things. we dont need your boondogges. your cap and trade will kill people.
     
  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    holy shit lets get our best politicians on this right away! its a "nightmare!" the sky is falling! oh no, i am scared. this isnt just the politics of fear being used to justify control, of course this is an actual problem, oh my lord!
     
  3. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    The mountain goat doesn't decimate everything in it's path like humans do.
     
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    interesting side fact. the word decimate used to mean to reduce by a tenth. but likei said before, language evolves. its a good case study for what contained chaos and i were talking about. it used to be improper to say decimate when you mean destroy because to decimate was literally to only reduce by one deci or tenth. but now the proper usage is different and to correct folks would be wrong.

    and humans do not destroy everything in their path. again, they dont even make the earth a less viable habitat, the earth can and does support many more humans than it ever could before. the earth is more useful, and thereore less "decimated" than it ever was before, so your point is the exact opposite of true.
     
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    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    spoken like a true professional consumer in denial.
     
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    you have never met anyone who consumes less than me. i dont own a car. i refuse gifts, i desperately try to own fewer things than anyone. my apartment is small and requires very little AC and i almost never need heat because i prefer the cold. my utility bill is basically nothing. i havent bought a gallon of gas in 13 years. i use the expensive light bulbs that save energy. i probably have the smallest carbon footprint of anyone you have ever met. its not about my personal consumption habits. this discussion isnt about me, i dont care, i am not trying to advance my own lifestyle. i am opposing the policies of economic destruction.
     
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    TUSKtimes Riding the Wave

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    Wow, if you ever chose a life as a unabomber, you may be over qualified.
     
  8. martin

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    my personal behavior happens to be incredibly green and efficient, but that is not the point. were i to be a fat american walmart loving middle american consumer, that would be ok, it would be good for the economy. the cheap chinese throwaway stuff i would buy and the stupid nascar-advertised prducts i would want because i would be a mindless slave to advertising, those things would be great because they would provide much needed jobs to little chinamen fellas. i happen to be an urbane avant-garde sophisticate that cares not for consumer fetishism but that just means i am cool, it oesnt mean i am serving the best interrests of he world like the fat soccer moms in the flyover states.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    There are no exceptions to the law of supply and demand in food supply.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Same old rhetoric without a shred of evidence to back it up.

    Food subsidies are another topic entirely than climate change and I have been long on record as being against farm subsidies.

    I have no need to control things, nor have I ever suggested such. You are just weaseling out of an argument by waving your hands and saying "hey, look over there!"

    A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
     

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