The Truth about Taxes and the Rich

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  1. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    There is not a set amount of money out there. How much money one person gets has no relationship to the amount another one receives.
     
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  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    it helps everyone when the money is spent on infrastructure, schools, hospitals, etc, and not wars, corporate welfare, and oil subsidies.
     
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  3. martin

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    again, it doesnt matter what percentage of the pie anyone gets, it matters if that slice of the pie is sufficient. a smaller slice of a larger pie is fine.

    so the goal is growth of the economy, NOT RELATIVE EQUALITY. efforts to create equality are always counterproductive. the natural state os a free system is divergence or levels of income.

    some of you *******s act like you would be happy if everyone were poor, as long as nobody made more than anyone else.

    stop caring about the gap between rich and poor and care about the actual state of the poor.

    stop judging relative wealth and judge actual wealth.

    poor people that are fat and have cable tv, are they actually poor? no, when compared to the average bangladeshi person. but why would i compare those two people? why would i compare anyone? it is stupid to think only in relative terms, not real terms.
     
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  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    you are the one that said you wanted the government to help you to be able to afford food and gas. you are the one to blame for these subsidies.
     
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  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    How about paying down the debt?
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Not as individuals, but collectively it does.
     
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  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    First you have to stop adding to it and spending only what is taken in. Then you must post surpluses which can be used to pay down the debt. This is why cuts alone will not solve the debt problem. It has to be attacked from both ends or we will never generate the surpluses needed to pay down the debt.
     
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  8. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    I agree with that...BUT...this administration cannot be trusted with increased revenue. They will only add to the debt by spending it. Let's get some serious cuts going then we can talk about increasing revenue.
     
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    So we have a nationwide salary cap?
     
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  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No but when an increasingly high portion of a nations wealth is held by an increasingly small number of people bad things happen. Like . . . the fall of the roman empire, the French Revolution, the fall of the the Czar.

    The United States has been great because it has been a nation comprised of a large upwardly mobile middle class. Few became rich but most prospered and did well and few were poor or at least they weren't poor long. Huge middle class, small numbers of rich, small numbers of poor. This is the formula for a democratic nation to succeed.

    Right now the top 1% own 23% of the nations wealth and the bottom 20% own essentially nothing. The last time this happened was in 1928. You remember what happened in 1929?
     
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