The Time to Act Against Iran Is Fast Approaching

Tell us Martin; Ahmadinejad and his ilk have repeated on numerous occasions that they want a world without an Israel and without an USA. Do you think that if Obama can somehow convince the Israelis and the PA to agree to peace, that it will somehow assuage the ruling Mullahs of Iran and their favorite puppet, Ahmadinejad? Or do you believer that they will wipe Israel off the map anyway like they have been promising they will do?

Personally, I believe that not only is there no prayer of Israel ever making peace with the PA or anyone else, since the Dar al Islam’s jihad against the West and the unbeliever world is permanent, that if Iran does gets nukes they will not only use them against Israel to wipe Israel off the map, but that they will also use them against us, because I believe Iran is telling us what they really mean.

 

Interesting read on the subject.
Nuking Westphalia: Obama’s Deep Convictions Point to War With Iran - Walter Russell Mead's Blog - The American Interest

 

I hope too that BHO will be able to pass this problem on to his successor, because going to war with BHO at the helm scares the living crap out of me. However, I don’t think we will be afforded that luxury.

Nevertheless, Iran must be stopped at any and all cost and if we have to do it even with BHO at the helm, I would definitely have to hold my nose and support him.

 

why do you talk to me as if i am more trusting of radical islam than you are? i should be lecturing you on how to be full of hate for radical religion, not the other way around. like i told your previous screennames, i could hate circles around you.

 

What do you mean radical Islam? Are you making the ridiculous claim that there is a version of Islam that isn’t radical? Well then, can you please provide a link to a Koran of that version of Islam that you claim isn’t radical, because I want to see if the violent verses that abrogate all the peaceful verses have been taken out or are absent?

 

Thread successfully hijacked. Move along now, nothing to see here.

 

Argument lost.

 

explain.

i am not making points about reality, about what i think, i am making points about the christian perspective, christianity sends infidels to hell, so presumably eternal torture is an appropriate punishment for infidels.

you cant ask me, a sane person, if i believe in hell and then act like you won the argument because i dont! of course my opinion is sane and leads to sane conslusions. the point here is that you do not have my glorious perspective! please pay attention.

i am comparing christianity to islam, not my sane wonderfulness to islam. i dont want to kill any ifidels, like the irish christians, or send anyone to hell, like christian god. thats what you want, right?

 

yes. but you would claim all non radicals are not truly islam,. again, this is called the "no true scotsman" fallacy.

No true Scotsman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

maybe you should show me the version of the bible that doesnt involve god advocating the murder of all manner of everyone, destroying cities, burning folks, basically being a killing machine and favoring merciless murder of people, virtually constantly.

oh but wait, some christians dont favor the god of the bibe, the way he kills! i guess they are not christians! and this logic works for filthy juden like you, pal.

 

Only Christianity deals with substitutionary punishment (propitiation) and redemption. Other religions require many works and earthly actions to have the "hope" of salvation.

I think I see what you are trying to do here. Regardless, even
if I step down to your level, (earthly torture + eternal torture) is clearly worse than (no earthly torture + eternal torture).

For you, and in reality, Islam is clearly worse due to the earthly punishments that it inflicts on apostates and other nonbelievers.

Your critique of the Christian faith should be on what the Christian faith states in its scriptures, which is "God is not willing that any should perish".