I agree with you here MM. I used to think that the stars and bars on various southern state flags was more cultural than racist...and it probably really is "heritage". I think the south has come a long way since WWII and dignified human relations are a lot more important to me than symbols. But then I asked myself what I would feel like if one of the states in Germany had a swastika as part of the flag's design...even though it's not my country. I began to feel differently after that realization.
correct me if i'm wrong, because i wasn't born yet, but: from what i've read/heard, the flag wasn't really a symbol of racism until the time of the civil rights or so. it was more of a "eff you" to the north, and a reminder of who are and where we came from. then during the KKKs hey day, and other grotesque parts of our history, backwoods rednecks, and good ole boy politics used it as their symbol. changing it's meaning from one of heritage and pride to one of pure hatred and racism.
i think it was labeled a flag of racism after the war. People still get bent out of shape when they see the stars and bars, and i can understand why, its not what it meant, it's what it represented. I guess to each his own, they don't offend me, but i was never a slave, nor did i go through segregation.
I think you're right Nootch. It took on more of an anti segregation tone after WWII when the civil rights movement was in swing. I believe it does represent more than that though. I'm not really up on American history, but the civil war was about more than slavery or human rights...today though a racial undertone is melded with whatever it really stands for historically. I think people make too big a deal out of it's symbolism and not big enough of a deal out of human dignity and respect. Forget about the symbol...concentrate on the issue. I hope Ole Miss changes Col Reb into a lizard because it'll be a lot easier to make fun of their sports teams. But then the American Herpetological Society may come unglued. "Let my lizards go !!!" could be their PC battle cry. Cajun Sensation could be then commissioned to re write the "Hoddy Toddy" to something more anti Lizard in retaliation.:hihi:.
Doesn't matter. Mitsubishi is a logo of Japanese Zeros used to bomb Pearl Harbor, yet nobody cares about that. Probably because it was let go of. When you hold on to all this crap, you still believe it. Wasn't the Mercedes-Benz logo a third reich emblem? Or Volkswagon a part of the swastika family? I forget. We learned about it long, long ago.
you might actually want to read what he said in the post about him and I disagreeing about if all white men from the south is racist. that is what I mean about attributing stupid shyt to me. Ive never indicated anything like that, how is that trying to have an open dialogue about race? Thats a pretty silly generalization to me, maybe not to anyone else.
You're right, it was way too broad a generalization and I apologize. What I should have said is if you are white, from the South and proud to be from the South you are a racist. If you are white, from the South and ashamed of it you are ok, my mistake.
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