The quarterback we wanted

Discussion in 'The Tiger's Den' started by msully, Sep 8, 2016.

  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Yeah his last little thing he had to hold onto is now gone. Had to end sometime I guess. Anyway, again, I'm not sure you understand Les Miles. Jimbo ran the O, and Crowton did in year 1 and part of year 2 and when Lee started the pick 6 fest Les took over and I don't mean the play calls I meant the offensive scheme. And he hasn't let it go and won't let it go ever, so the next OC wouldn't have a chance.
     
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  2. TUSKtimes

    TUSKtimes Riding the Wave

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    I'm grinning some. 52 wins in a row, no little thing. Amazing in the already tough SEC schedule you have to endure. I agree Miles missed his chance to right the ship schematically. Now it will be sheer talent and having to work within the system he is so determined to go down with. To be fair, I get Miles style of play. It's also been the Bama way forever. More games are lost than won and Les knows, play field position and great defense and stay away from turnovers and the other team will gag it up. More times than not the most talented team still wins it.

    But, I've also seen that the rules now favor the swift too much. That freaking 40-second clock, the hurry up that morphed because of it and the read option that spreads you out, just too many talented teams taking advantage. By accepting that out-scoring some opponents is a must against the elite teams and the offensively gifted, you have to have an offense to at least keep up. The diff is still who has the best defense. Maybe you can still win with a team like you had in 2011, but that was a team who scored on special teams and was a turnover machine. Tough odds of Miles putting that team together again.
     
  3. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I'm not trying to diminish the 52 game OOC regular season streak. On paper that's a hell of a thing. Dig a little deeper though. It's Regular season which means the majority of those games are against the ULL's and Troy's of the world. Now I will give him credit for the big wins against WVU in 2011, and Oregon in 2011, but like you said, it was D and special teams that won those games. There was still no offense to be found. In 2007 LSU demolished Virginia Tech, but Crowton had full control, Les does deserve credit for that absolutely.

    The problem is this, and this is why everyone is so pissed and wants him gone. He refuses to accept the fact that his offensive philosophy is garbage in today's college football. You can't just hide your QB and have him miraculously show up in big games when you need him. Running the ball is fine, but you must be able to throw the ball as well and LSU can't do that. It's the same dog and pony show we have seen over and over and over again, and his reluctance to change or admit he is wrong is why everyone wants him gone.

    No one dislikes Miles the man and everyone is thankful for not letting the wheels fall off when Saban left, but they are falling off now and with the talent that LSU gets every year this shouldn't be the case. If LSU loses in a game where the other team was just a better team but still shows signs of progress and the ability to throw the ball, Miles wouldn't be on the hot seat. He is though because he refuses to change, or even admit there needs to be change.
     
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  4. BAY0U BENGAL

    BAY0U BENGAL I'm a Chinese Bandit

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    Whatever. To me, that honor was gone when we played that shitshow of a game against Penn St. Had to change it from wins to Regular Season wins. It wasn't as cool anymore.
     
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  5. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    It is no small thing that STs look as terrible as we've seen in quite some time. That is incredibly disheartening.
     
  6. ExoticGlass1

    ExoticGlass1 Founding Member

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    Anyone who's watched LSU practice knows Brandon Harris is in now way the most inaccurate passer everyone says he is, his problem is in game pressure and not always from pressure from the defense. His self composure is just not there and I don't think its from a lack of confidence. There are a few members here that have watched him in practice regularly that would agree, don't think its because he's only playing against our scout team, we have some really good players on there. Those high throws show how much he's pressing, you may see them occasionally in practice but nothing like we've seen in game situation since last year.
     
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  7. ThePhenom74

    ThePhenom74 Founding Member

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    I agree to an extent with this. Mett was coached before coming here. However he FITS what Miles wants in a QB. He also had better play calling early on in his LSU career. He wasn't handcuffed and then ran into the ground like Lee, JJ, AJ, and Harris have been.

    Death Valley, where LSU QB's come to die- under Miles.
     
  8. cul2969

    cul2969 Founding Member

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    Actually he fits what Miles NEEDS for his offense to work but for whatever reason Miles WANTS to recruit running QBs and try to turn them into dropback passers.
     
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  9. bowe

    bowe Senior Member

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    They haven't developed any other QB at any other time so why would you believe it was them who developed Mett.
     
  10. msully

    msully Founding Member

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    JJ and and Lee I remember who was AJ JJ was like what we have now



     

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