The Occupy Wall Street protests

to repeat, any effort to close the gap between rich and poor results in destruction for everyone, and are most damaging to the poor people who are asking for the changes.

meaning if the occupy folks got whatever it is they want, the people most hurt by it would be the poor. i don think most of the occupy folks are poor, i think those folks are actually at work and cant be bothered to protest. the actual poor people are guatamalan and work in the kitchens at restaraunts. the occupy folks are white and american and therefore have a life that is incredibly easy compared to a bangladeshi immigrant, who is not complaining, because he knows what an actual poor person looks like, what actual government corruption looks like.

the worst possible thing is that government influences the economy. i cant never ever say this enough. and the one point the occupy clan is right on is that there is too much coroprate influence in politics, too many bailouts, too many subsidies. but again, the solution is a much smaller government! the solution is to taker power from the hands of the government. take money from the government. to tax the rich even less!

 

another thing i dont undertand is why people are so patriotic and they dont just move to whatever nation has policies they like.

america is clearly the greateat nation on earth. the reason is because we have policies in the place that allow for great accumulation of wealth. if you want some sort of high tax policy that crushes the rich, there are places you can move that favor these sorts of policies. cuba would be perfect.

seriously, i know people say this all the time. but i would just move away if the US sucked. i am not patriotic at all. i dont give a **** about america. i dont even really respect veterans. i would happily move to ireland or the netherlands and be more patriotic about their flag than i was ours. so i dont understand why people dont find the political system that is most pleasing and move there.

part of the reason is tht nations that favors these sorts of policies that the lefat favors are miserable ****holes.

 

No, I was talking about the link that I posted. They have the right to protest peacefully but they don't have the right to disrupt places of businesses or shut down the freeway. You have no clue what you are talking about here. What right do they have to disrupt others right to shop or eat out at Walmart.
Businesses are losing money and going out of businesses because occupiers are disrupting their businesses. I have no problem with people protesting as long as they don't interfere with the rights of others and as long as its peaceful

 

No lies here, Obama Made Bank of America, some businesses and banks take the bailout. I agree about what George Bush did also, its was wrong. In some ways this shows my consistency, I don't care for Paulson or Bush and these policies or Obama, Geitner, the tax cheat and their policies. This is why I dislike this government and their policies, power and greed. In a way it has nothing to do with Obama, Bush or Republican or Democrat.

 

you just said that the reason economic inequality is bad is because of the threat of revolution. perhaps you are right. people definitely do protest against their best interests by the millions. they kill their leades and install communist regimes. this is because most people have an incredibly unsophisticated understanding of economics. and you are encouraging them.

but that doesnt mean the economic reality isnt that poor people are better off when rich people are rich, at least in a capitalist system.

again, what your side needs to prove is that the poor here are poor because of the rich. that person x is poor because person Y is rich.

right. this is exactly what people said before every communist revolution. cant you see that this never works?

you apparently do not know any chinese folks. if you do, ask them how the poor in their home country are doing. they will describe spoverty like we havent had here in 50 years.

 

if you are not arguing that the poor are poor because of exploitation by the rich, then why is the gap relevant? and i know the answer you give is that people are ignorant clods and will protest and revolt and insititure reforms that actually do destroy the poor, because the poor have an incredibly unsophisticated understanding of economics.

so the solution is free market, and ignoring protest. more freee market will make even the poor so rich and fat that they dont have the energy to start a revolution. we just have to remember one thing, the goal is not economic equality. if the poor are doing well (and oh my goodness they are doing great in this country) then we nee to stop giving a damn about the megarich. the megarich are not hurting anyone, they are helping everyone.

it is not US vs them. EVER, as long as neither parties are the government. a rich man cannot force you to do anything unless the government helps him. and if that happens the problem is with the government for being way too big. and for that i blame peopl elike you for favoring HUGE boondoggles like social security or health care, and high taxes to fund these things, that puts so much power and control in the heands of the government, which of course is the only entity that actually has coercive power.