The New World Order ... love it!!

Winston thinks you have watched too many Solyant Green and Matrix movies I think Winston need to watch more than you. He also needs to read Atlas Shruged and 1984.

 

Great books. Loved Atlas Shrugged but i think The Fountainhead was even better. Good time to read Brave New World again too.

 

I’ve read both Kiki and others. What I do know is that tyranny can come from both sides. It’s happening now and to borrow a phase from Sir Edward Grey on the eve of WWI “The lights are going out all over Europe and I fear we won’t see them lit in our lifetime “. In this case in the United States and the world.

 

So I assume you are referring to NAZI Germany and what you mean by both sides is that you believe the NAZI party was right wing. You think Hitler and the Nazi's were right wing?

 

Well Kiki I gotta say it was. Hitler’s party and rise was backed German industrialists and bankers. His appeal was to nationalism and a promise to revitalize the German economy and rebuild Germany’s place in the world. He didn’t call for take over of business by the state or ending private property. In fact I don’t think he ever did. Finally his primary German opponents before he took power were the communists. That pretty much is the opposite of communism.....a right wing tyranny
Just because the Nazi party had socialist in its name doesn’t mean it was socialist in form or policy.....sort of like democrats aren’t democratic.

 

Winston just can’t let things be what they are. Always having to compare this to that.

 

OK Winston

Hitler and NAZI Party beliefs vs Conservatives beliefs;

1. Unification of all Germanic people on the basis of self-determination. (Conservative)
2. Equality of rights for the German people. Abrogation of the Treaty of Versailles. (Both parties however DEMOCRATS believe is special rights for blacks, Antifa and LGBQTXYZ people)
3. Lands specifically allocated to the success and surplus of the German people (known as Lebensraum, “living space”). (DEMOCRATS)
4. Citizenship based on German ethnicity. No Jews. (Today's DEMOCRATS)
5. Special legislation for non-citizen residents. (DEMOCRATS giving them rights over our own legal citizens)
6. Only citizens can hold official government positions. (Conservatives, DEMOCRATS are not for this)
7. The State must provide an opportunity for livelihood for its citizens. (DEMOCRATS)
8. Total and complete ban on all new immigrants. Mass deportations of all recent (conservative except conservatives are not for a ban on new LEGAL immigrants)
9. All citizens must have equal rights and obligations. (Conservative)
10. The first obligation of every citizen is to the interests of the collective. (No concept of individualism in Nazism). (DEMOCRATS)
11. Abolition and elimination of all unearned income. (No property income, no inheritance, a 100% estate tax). (DEMOCRATS)
12. Confiscation of all war profits. (DEMOCRATS)
13. Nationalisation of all large corporations and businesses. (DEMOCRATS)
14. A portion of industrial profits go to the federal government. (DEMOCRATS)
15. Large-scale expansion of the government pension program. (DEMOCRATS)
16. Communalization of public property. Artificially low rent prices for small businesses. (DEMOCRATS except for the helping small businesses they are for the large corporations)
17. Uncompensated eminent domain policy. Abolition of property taxes and the real estate market. (DEMOCRATS)
18. Capital punishment for war profiteers, predatory lenders, and financial speculators. (DEMOCRATS)
19. The State is responsible for the education of the youth. Free higher education. (DEMOCRATS)
20. Implementation of Roman law (secular and materialistic). (DEMOCRATS)
21. Criminalizing child labor. (Both parties)
22. Abolition of mercenaries. Strong national defense. (Conservative)
23. Government censorship of the press. No non-citizen publications. (DEMOCRATS)
24. Freedom of religion, insofar that they don’t oppose the interests of the State. THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY BEFORE THE GOOD OF THE INDIVIDUAL. (All caps in the original German). (DEMOCRATS)
25. Formation of a strong centralized government. Unlimited authority of Parliament (DEMOCRATS)

Also Hitler didn't believe in communism or CAPITALISM (DEMOCRATS although DEMOCRATS are more closely associated with communism)
Also Hitler believed Democracy should be forbidden (DEMOCRATS)
Also Hitler believed in social Darwinism (DEMOCRATS)
Also Hitler hated the Catholic faith (DEMOCRATS)
Also Hitler believed in political correct speech and his Hitler youth was part of enforcing that (DEMOCRATS)
Also Hitler believed in banning smoking (DEMOCRATS)
Also Hitler believed vehemently that citizens to eat nutritional foods HE approved of (DEMOCRATS)
Also Hitler believed in anti semitism (prevalent in the DEMOCRAT PARTY)
Also Hitler believed in government control of newspapers (DEMOCRATS)
Also Hitler believed in banning and burning books that went against his ideology (DEMOCRATS)
Also Hitler believed in extreme environmental policies, had soldiers plant trees and vegetarianism (DEMOCRATS)
Lastly Hitler believed in confiscation of guns especially the Jews, political opponents and the unreliable citizens. Also newly conquered countries citizens were totally stripped of thier gun rights failing to do so meant death. (DEMOCRATS)

????? Yes

 

Winston?

 

Just a little more comparison between the NAZI party and the DEMOCRATS. Hitler had his Brown Shirts and the DEMOCRATS have their versions too.

Obama's version of Brown Shirts
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded,” Obama said in July 2, 2008.

DEMOCRATS 2021 version of Brown Shirts


Winston put on your pants come out of your basement and get into the fight.

 

Sorry Kiki but I have to work sometimes. However your reply actually supported my point that tyranny can come from both the left and right. Other right wing tyrannies can be found in Franco’s Spain, Peron’s Argentina and developing in Orban’s Hungary.
The source doesn’t matter as much as the result. Intolerance of opposition leads to tyranny. Relying on one person to be the “savior “ leads to dictatorship and tyranny. I see it happening here.....from both sides. Both republicans and democrats want more power concentrated in the presidency. That leads to dictatorship and tyranny.
I saw a poll result yesterday where about a third of democrats and 40% of republicans are in favor of separation into two countries. That’s a sad commentary on the state of public discourse in the country and a warming about the future of our country.