Crime The Michael Brown shooting

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You don't know shit about me, internet tough guy. I don't think you know shit about fights either. Not all punches cause lacerations, its a fact. What do you think he was doing leaning in that car window, kissing the cop? His blood was in the car.
     
  2. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    Well now you originally stated that he had only one small red mark on his face. In fact he had three....one of each side of his face and one on the back of his neck. And I don't know what you think is swollen but yes, his cheeks and left ear are swollen.
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  3. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    Where did I say it didn't make contact or that the punches missed? What I said was from Wilson who said the punches came with a full-on swing but not full-on contact. That means some contact, but not FULL.

    Wilson said that two punches came into contact (meanwhile Brown was blocking the door, not allowing the officer to exit) at which point he realized that based on the size of the individual, he could be mortally injured. He did not carry a taser and he dismissed the idea of mace and a flashlight as a weapon so he chose his revolver. As they fought over it, Wilson said he felt like a 5-year old grappling with Hulk Hogan. Two shots fired in the car, and one struck Brown in the hand. He fled.

    Zimmerman has proven to be an unstable cop wannabe. This case is not the same. Wilson had never before fired his revolver on duty. He has nothing on his record to suggest he is racist, bad at his job, or unstable. Have you watched any of his interviews? He doesn't need coaching. People who tell the truth don't need encouragement from anyone else. The folks who need coaching are the racist witnesses who admitted to lying.
     
  4. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    No I did not. Please re-read my comment. Incoming velocity and reduced contact are two different things.

    The DA also did not cross any of the witnesses. Who did? The grand jury. They have been seated since May and have already tried other cases. This isn't a group of fresh doe-eyed citizens with no idea of what's going on. When a witness comes on the stand and gives testimony, then under questioning admits they made it up to fit the facts they heard about or one who admitted that since he was from the community he just "knew" Wilson was murderer, what grand jury is going to push for a case? What DA is going to trial with unreliable and dishonest witnesses especially when the evidence does not support their testimony?

    He wasn't killed for strong-arm robbery. I would also suggest a civil rights violation of the store clerk by Brown.

    They had Trayvon Martin's attorney. High powered attorneys don't always get to the truth of things. If Wilson is like "most" street cops, then what have you to say about young black men who flaunt disrespect of the law?
     
  5. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    yes zero sense, sorry if my mistrust of cops doesnt fit your worldview, because cops historically have been so fair to men of color dating back 100 plus years. I dont believe his story at all and nothing anyone can says will change that due to his version and history itself with police brutality and black men. Im sure Bull Connor would have recited the events just as this guy. some of his story is probably true, but to continue to shoot and kill this guy when his hands were up, which i do believe is bullshit to me.
    Sure Brown had a lot to do with his own death, because i am a reasonable person I can admit that.
     
  6. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Find a DA in the country that has done as such, a DA is supposed to recommend charges and present evidence of the events, not dump everything in the lap of lay people and let them figure it out for themselves. He had a preconceived mission of letting this thing die at the feet of 12 people who were not task with deciding true guilt.
     
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  7. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    respect works both ways, what do you have to say about the history of law enforcement and black men.
     
  8. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    you really want to throw that out there? its impossible to argue a specific case against the crutch of history.
     
  9. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    read her comments, its exactly what she seemed to forget when throwing out that comment.
    She wanted him to discuss how "young black men disrepect cops" without having the entire conversation.
    either we have all of it or none.
    just my opinion
     
  10. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    My worldview doesn't include de facto trust in police. For a variety of reasons I don't necessarily "trust all men" but for me, I take each on their own actions, behavior, history. Witness #10 in the grand jury "had nearly the exact same story as Wilson did in regards to Brown running, turning, and charging at him. He said too that Brown paused momentarily after moving ahead, after which Wilson stopped shooting. The witness then describes how Brown went into a full charge at Wilson, and that's when the final shots were fired.
    Also, you will see that witness #10 gave his recorded testimony 48 hours after the incident, which happened to be a day before Wilson gave his official account of the incident to investigators on August 10."

    Eye witnesses varied on their testimony as to his hands being up. Are the ones who confirmed Wilson's version lying?
     

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