Obama The Iran Deal We Should Have Done

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  1. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    you do realize that they would get this money anyway without a deal, because the European sanctions are about to expire and they were not going to reinstate them.
     
    LSUMASTERMIND, Sep 11, 2015
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    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    we dont have the money, most of it is tied up in European banks, Switzerland, etc and they were going to lift sanctions without a deal.
     
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  3. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Too bad. I'm not for Trump to actually get elected but if that money was in American banks and we still had it and if Trump were to become president you just know he would find a way to keep it.
     
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  4. el005639

    el005639 Founding Member

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    That not the point...we don't have to sign off on a bad deal...which this is because the Iranians will not live by it and the sanctions will be gone. this snap back shit is a pipe dream. We will be there left holding the bag looking like a fool.

    And the thing is when we do have to do something about the shit storm that is coming, all the liberals will blame the conservatives for wanting to go to war when this "deal" is the crux of the problem.
     
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  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No it shouldn't. The Party of No is just being obstructionist again.

    And you are mistaken about the sanctions. The best part of the Iran deal is the "Snapback provision". If Iran cheats, it will face punishment. No single country on the Security Council (namely Russia) can veto the re-imposition of sanctions.

    The members of the panel are the five veto-wielding members of the Security Council, plus Germany, Iran and the European Union. There are eight members total. If a majority (5) finds Iran to be cheating, the issue is referred to the Security Council. No single country has a veto.

    And here is where things get interesting. The language of the nuclear deal says that the vote in the Security Council would not be to reimpose sanctions. Rather, the Security Council must decide whether or not to continue lifting the sanctions. And if they fail to do so, the old sanctions are snapped back into place. This framing obviates the prospect of a Russian veto, and it all but assures that if the Western countries believe that Iran is cheating, sanctions will automatically be re-imposed.

    http://www.undispatch.com/why-the-snap-back-provision-is-the-most-brilliant-part-of-the-iran-deal/    ​
     
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  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Wrong once again. Read the previous post.
     
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  7. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    You so gullible amigo
     
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  8. el005639

    el005639 Founding Member

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    No way is he that gullible...his blind support of this president had led him to discount 40 or more years of ineptitude from the UN. Red point outs no single country can stop it. Maybe but there are 2 which will. And you can't ever know which way the euros will go.
     
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  9. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    What's that you were saying?
     
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  10. Bengal B

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