Obama The Iran Deal We Should Have Done

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  1. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Because he isn't, you made that up
     
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  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Go find your own argument. This guy acknowledged that Bush was bad, he just doesn't like people mentioning it when talking about Obama.
     
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  3. el005639

    el005639 Founding Member

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    That is not what was said...what was said more or less don't look at Obama look at Bush
     
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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No, he didn't. NC said Obama is actually doing something about Iran and one can "compare that to the Bush administration when the situation was altogether ignored." The key word is "compare" and there is nothing wrong with a comparison. In fact, Bush did nothing about Iran at all and by removing Iran's nemesis (Saddam's Iraq) he allowed a small power to become a regional one. Many people have commented on this.

    http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-07-14/blame-george-w-bush-for-iran-deal
     
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  5. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Don't boss me
     
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  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Stand up straight, and tuck in that shirt.
     
    red55, Sep 10, 2015
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  7. mobius481

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    Can someone explain the republican argument that the Iran deal ensures Iran will have a bomb very soon? From what I can tell it does nothing that could even be construed as giving them an easier path to a bomb. Their only benefits are economic and we all know it doesn't take a strong economy to build a bomb. Maybe we could have gotten a better deal, I understand that argument, but how could this deal be considered to be worse than the status quo?
     
    mobius481, Sep 11, 2015
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  8. LSUMASTERMIND

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    what argument?
    They have talking points, but no argument.
     
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  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    They are only against it because Obama is for it. They have always been long on bitching and short on solutions.
     
    red55, Sep 11, 2015
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  10. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    The Republican argument is not that it ensures Iran will have a bomb soon. That is the administration's argument if the deal is not passed. Republicans argue that after 10 years Iran will be able to develop nuclear weapons without recourse. The administration argues that Iran will develop them sooner without a deal. Since these are politicians telling me this, I don't know who is more correct but they both agree that Iran will have a nuclear weapon at some point.

    Republicans argue that lifting sanctions on Iran will built their economy enough to greatly further their current support of terrorism. It is supported by the fact that Iran's supreme leader, the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said that Israel will not see the end of the deal in 25 years. "God willing, there will be no such thing as a Zionist regime in 25 years. Until then, struggling, heroic and jihadi morale will leave no moment of serenity for Zionists,"

    The ultimate fact may be that nothing short of war will stop it from happening.
     
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