Republicans The GOP's Presidential Candidates

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Jeb Bush wants Americans to work longer hours. That's his response to a Union Leader on how to get 4% growth. This dude is completely out of touch with reality. This is like the Mitt Romney comment about just borrowing money from your parents to go college. Bush was born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a home run, but he has no clue.
     
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  2. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    Another fn idiot. Looks like I'm down with chump trump.
     
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    uscvball Founding Member

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    Context.

    "You can take it out of context all you want, but high sustained growth means people work 40 hours rather than 30 hours and that by our success they have disposable income for their families to decide how they want to spend it"

    The reality is that, "The labor force participation rate hovered between 62.9 percent and 62.7 percent in the eleven months from April 2014 through February, and has been 62.9 percent or lower in 13 of the 17 months since October 2013.

    Prior to that, the last time the rate was below 63 percent was 37 years ago, in March 1978 when it was 62.8 percent, the same rate it was in February."

    Combine that with the fact that the current labor force has been boosted by part-time and seasonal workers and you understand that people can't get enough hours to sustain their families.

    "The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers), at 6.5 million, changed little in June. These individuals, who would have preferred full-time employment, were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job. (See table A-8.) In June, 1.9 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force, little changed from a year earlier. (The data are not seasonally adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey. (See table A-16.) Among the marginally attached, there were 653,000 discouraged workers in June, essentially unchanged from a year earlier. (The data are not seasonally adjusted.) Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available for them. The remaining 1.3 million persons marginally attached to the labor force in June had not searched for work for reasons such as school attendance or family responsibilities. (See table A-16.) "
    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

    So you have people no longer looking for work who, as Jeb said, have lost hope and you have workers with part-time hours who want full-time work. The economy will not grow in that scenario.
     
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  4. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    You conveniently left out that this was a "clarification" made after his statement. Yeah ok.
     
  5. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    No convenience, Mr. Pot (not a dope joke). I would like to have heard the entire interview or at the least, the immediate questions prior. You yourself did not provide his entire answer to that question and some part of it portends to his later clarification. And it still doesn't change the facts....part-time workers and those who have stopped working are key to growing the economy and the labor force.
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I like Mr. Pot, Hippie, Hondo, I'm gonna be like Puff Daddy or whatever he is this week.
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Context.

    Republicans have been making a lot of noise about the declining labor force participation rate to try to minimize the fact that unemployment is very low in this country. They routinely ignore the demographic fact of the Baby Boom. The largest generation in history has swelled the labor participation rate for 50 years but those boomers are now retiring in increasing numbers. They account for more than 40% of the decline in labor participation. This is something that was going to happen no matter who was in office or what the economy did. It has been predicted for a long time.

    Many boomers are leaving the workforce, not because they are "discouraged persons", but because they can retire and they wish too.

    The key stat in that whole report is this one. Unemployment is steadily dropping. If you are willing to work in this country, there are jobs available.

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    And not all part-time employees "can't get enough hours". Many retired boomers are now working part-time by choice because they desire fewer hours. I am one of them. With unemployment this low, many jobs are available for part-timers who want to work full time.

    And yet, it continues to grow.
     
  9. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Bush is definitely out of touch. Possibly as much as Hillary. Those high profile politicians have no idea what it is to just "get by."

    I love Trump being real with the people and not balking despite all it's costing. He goes overboard though. Like the young female reporter he was very ugly to. No call for that.
     
  10. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    And that doesn't change what the bureau of labor statistics reported.....there people who want more hours and can't get them. The cost of healthcare and other items is being responded to by business owners who don't offer full-time employment at the same rate as they used to. You also have a segment of former workers who simply gave up looking. They aren't part of the unemployment rate, but they are part of the labor force decline.

    And a portion of those jobs don't offer full-time hours. Thus, the entire workforce will need more hours, not be more "productive" in those hours.

    I didn't say ALL. I provided official government documentation that there are workers who want, but cannot get, more hours.
     

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