The future

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  1. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    Haven't we learned this by now from Trump. He has two angles. Flattery and strong arm. He uses both. First, his diplomatic approach is to win their heart. If that doesn't work, he will be hard. There is nothing wrong with that. It is negotiation. Even with the bad guys. Try to find a common ground and work from there. Foreign policy was the least of my issues with him.
     
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  2. USAFRet66.86

    USAFRet66.86 COTiger is cool

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    Damn, it sure is quiet in here with no political discussions. I like the quietness. IconLOL.gif
     
  3. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    yeah it comes and goes. We had an old guy here. COTiger. He was retired AF just like your moniker. I think he got sick and died.

    AF means "as fuck" for you old dudes.
     
  4. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    what do propose we do with those that dont respect our borders? allow them in?

    when i travel i would never be so presumptuous as to just run across the border. i cant imagine that sort of entitlement. you dont own the world you cant just walk the earth like its yours.
     
  5. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    you are correct
     
  6. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    There’s a vast difference between having secure borders and putting people in cages. To be sure this was started by Obama and was just as barbaric under him. I believe in border security and managed immigration but we need immigrants of all types. A well designed and managed immigration system is critical to our future prosperity.
    Martin here’s where I disagree with Trump. He has worked to suppress all immigration. We don’t produce enough engineers, scientists or technical people to support our industry and growth. Likewise we need to prevent undesirables and criminals from getting in and to promptly expel them if needed. Trump’s policy is not balanced and has hurt industry and research.
     
  7. HalloweenRun

    HalloweenRun Founding Member

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    No, I do not think we should allow people in that are not legal immigrants.

    I feel like we should either turn them away, or keep them humanely until they can be sorted out. What we should not do is kind of letting them in, splitting families and all that. And I know some of the families that showed up at the border were not really families.

    Legal immigration great, illegal bad. Perhaps the best answer is to try to address issues that make people want to trek to the border in the first place.
     
  8. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Asians are good about that sort of thing and they tend to be law abiding
     
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  9. USAFRet66.86

    USAFRet66.86 COTiger is cool

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    What's your position on allowing immigrants from the China mainland? I'm a little leery given COVID and the fact that our relations with China are tenuous at best.
     
  10. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    In the event no one was paying attention, Mike Lee, a Republican out of Utah passed a disastrous bill the other day with no opposition at all. It effectively ends the per capita visas allowed for immigrants to get jobs here. Just goes to show you there are turds all over DC and they are on both sides of the isle.

    Thanks Mike
     
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